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If you want the opinion of a fairly educated european white male, we see the rural US as a bunch of Cletus Spucklers. No offense. Trump's victory seems to be on

If you want the opinion of a fairly educated european white male, we see the rural US as a bunch of Cletus Spucklers. No offense. Trump's victory seems to be only the confirmation to this. I hope I am wrong.

Inconel 10y ago
No offense That's rich. As a fairly uneducated, I have no formal education beyond high school, foreign born non-white American male who had the "luxury" of growing up in both rural Texas as well as a pretty crappy part of Houston and then Oakland, before Oakland was a refuge for well compensated techies seeking escape from high rent in SF, I'm curious how you see poor uneducated urban minorities, and what terms you would use to describe us?
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shaftoe 10y ago
I think you'd find stereotypes of European males similar. If I may make a suggestion that has proven valuable to me as an American in the deep south: don't project your local politics and assumptions when understanding others. Only when you walk a mile in someone's shoes, do you realize most perspectives have a point and reality is fractally complicated. Oversimplifying viewpoints or dismissing them is objectifying and othering. We all do it, but the group that does it "for tolerance" is the one that just lost an American election.
alva 10y ago
"fairly educated european white male". IYI And no, "we" do not all see rural US as Cletus Spucklers. You certainly do.
- lorenzhs 10y ago
  I suppose "IYI" here means "Intellectual Yet Idiot"? That's not the level at which we lead discussions on this site. Save for the people who've actually been to rural America, people's opinion here of rural Americans certainly is very undifferentiated.
  - alva 10y ago
    "we see the rural US as a bunch of Cletus Spucklers" but that is a level you are happy with?
    - ainiriand 10y ago
      No. I believe that we have globalization but basically we don't know much about culture from other parts of the world, or what worries they have. We swim in a sea of misconceptions and archetypes.
    - lorenzhs 10y ago
      It's not a personal attack, it's trying to present a viewpoint without endorsing it. That's a big difference.
- ainiriand 10y ago
  I am trying to generate a hyperbole to run my hypotesis. I am most certainly based on misconceptions and prejudices, but not cartoon misconceptions. But you might try to speak with any european and they will talk about how uneducated and backwards rural US is.
  - alva 10y ago
    "I am most certainly based on misconceptions and prejudices, but not cartoon misconceptions" "we see the rural US as a bunch of Cletus Spucklers" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cletus_Spuckler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cletus_Spuckler Literally a cartoon stereotype of rural Americans. I do hope this is just an epic troll.
    - ainiriand 10y ago
      I do hope you know what an hyperbole is and how it helps to set an argument.
ainiriand 10y ago
Please, don't take me wrong. I am the first coming from a rural part of Spain. The joke is on me. BUT, this is how the world sees the rural parts of USA.

Inconel 10y ago

No offense That's rich. As a fairly uneducated, I have no formal education beyond high school, foreign born non-white American male who had the "luxury" of growing up in both rural Texas as well as a pretty crappy part of Houston and then Oakland, before Oakland was a refuge for well compensated techies seeking escape from high rent in SF, I'm curious how you see poor uneducated urban minorities, and what terms you would use to describe us?

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shaftoe 10y ago

I think you'd find stereotypes of European males similar. If I may make a suggestion that has proven valuable to me as an American in the deep south: don't project your local politics and assumptions when understanding others. Only when you walk a mile in someone's shoes, do you realize most perspectives have a point and reality is fractally complicated. Oversimplifying viewpoints or dismissing them is objectifying and othering. We all do it, but the group that does it "for tolerance" is the one that just lost an American election.

alva 10y ago

"fairly educated european white male". IYI And no, "we" do not all see rural US as Cletus Spucklers. You certainly do.

lorenzhs 10y ago
I suppose "IYI" here means "Intellectual Yet Idiot"? That's not the level at which we lead discussions on this site. Save for the people who've actually been to rural America, people's opinion here of rural Americans certainly is very undifferentiated.
- alva 10y ago
  "we see the rural US as a bunch of Cletus Spucklers" but that is a level you are happy with?
  - ainiriand 10y ago
    No. I believe that we have globalization but basically we don't know much about culture from other parts of the world, or what worries they have. We swim in a sea of misconceptions and archetypes.
  - lorenzhs 10y ago
    It's not a personal attack, it's trying to present a viewpoint without endorsing it. That's a big difference.
ainiriand 10y ago
I am trying to generate a hyperbole to run my hypotesis. I am most certainly based on misconceptions and prejudices, but not cartoon misconceptions. But you might try to speak with any european and they will talk about how uneducated and backwards rural US is.
- alva 10y ago
  "I am most certainly based on misconceptions and prejudices, but not cartoon misconceptions" "we see the rural US as a bunch of Cletus Spucklers" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cletus_Spuckler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cletus_Spuckler Literally a cartoon stereotype of rural Americans. I do hope this is just an epic troll.
  - ainiriand 10y ago
    I do hope you know what an hyperbole is and how it helps to set an argument.

ainiriand 10y ago

Please, don't take me wrong. I am the first coming from a rural part of Spain. The joke is on me. BUT, this is how the world sees the rural parts of USA.