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Why not have a go here, I'd be interested to hear your rationale. On a less important note, re the argument being at a level of "how could you vote for someone
by robinwarren 10y ago
Why not have a go here, I'd be interested to hear your rationale.
On a less important note, re the argument being at a level of "how could you vote for someone who said that". That may not be people refusing to engage with what you see as the important points, but them focusing on what they see as the most important points. That doesn't make it right but if it is the case you may do well to understand their point of view holds that someone with his behaviour and character can't be trusted with power, they may see everything else as somewhat irrelevant. If that is the case at least understanding it may help you frame the discussion with such people, and hopefully not dismiss their arguments as petty since they think they are the most important points.
Anyway, aside complete. Let's hear the rationale for being a Trump supporter, I would be genuinely interested to hear it even if I may ultimately disagree.
- masondixon 10y ago> they may see everything else as somewhat irrelevant Yep. But this is what made everyone miss what was happening. It was an emotional response. But in this case Clinton provided so many analogous examples, which were ignored, which is just plain bias. As bad as someone is you always have to ask: could the same be said as my candidate? And with Hillary is was a yes on everything. It was always a question of "How could there be so many racists, sexists and xenophobes?". The answer was...there is not. It was the wrong question. > Anyway, aside complete. Let's hear the rationale for being a Trump supporter, I would be genuinely interested to hear it even if I may ultimately disagree. I've already posted it in a reply to this comment somewhere. Mainly corruption - the ultimate poison of a democracy. Counter productive political correctness, money out of politics, bullying and irrational feminists, sjws, and blm supporters. If you don't agree with everything they say you are sexist, racist, misogynist.
- frgtpsswrdlame 10y ago> Yep. But this is what made everyone miss what was happening. What is it that you think was happening?
- masondixon 10y agoTrump was going to win the election.
- mch82 10y agoFor what reason? Because 26% of voters felt bullied? How about the 42% that stayed home and didn't vote?
- masondixon 10y agoSo next time you will just pick a candidate who can get out the vote and win? Ok let's try that in 4 years :) I'm happy if you do. This righteousness will cause you to lose another election. You don't want to admit that Trump won, only that Clinton lost.
- ant6n 10y agoI'm having trouble with this implied connection of corruption and feminists, 'sjws', etc. Another issue: are you agreeing with _anything_ feminists are saying?
- masondixon 10y ago> are you agreeing with _anything_ feminists are saying? Nope. Women are well respected in society and now have more opportunities than men. There are many successful women, and women don't need a message from men saying that the system is rigged against them and they will not make it if they try. When there are as many women taking computer science at university, and seeking work in the computer science industry, and the numbers don't reflect that, then its something we need to look at.
- ant6n 10y ago"Feminism is the radical notion that women are people." Do you agree with this basic sentiment? (I don't mean the definition of feminism, but the part where women are people)
- masondixon 10y agoI don't think this is worthy of a response. Try again if you like.
- amykyta 10y agoHow can you say that when there are numerous examples of assault and discrimination? From the very obvious assaults by frat boys to the fact that if a couple wants to have a child the woman is the one who is forced to take a career hit. I don't buy the retort that a woman should choose whether she wants to pursue a career in corporate law or to have a child, that consideration never enters the picture for a man. Just because we're no longer telling Sally that she's bad at math because she's a girl doesn't mean we're done. You may consider yourself an egalitarian but you can't be blind to the wider state of things. Have you considered that you may have a similar blindspot for other types of discrimination?
- empath75 10y agoI agree that Hillary is corrupt. Trump is also going to be corrupt, and is already corrupt. I'm not sure what you gained here.
- masondixon 10y ago> Trump is also going to be corrupt. Why?