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> More Americans need to see more of the United States. They need to shake hands with a Muslim, or talk soccer with a middle aged lesbian, or attend a lecture b
by serge2k 10y ago
> More Americans need to see more of the United States. They need to shake hands with a Muslim, or talk soccer with a middle aged lesbian, or attend a lecture by a female business executive.
First off, why is this site screwing with my clipboard. Ugh.
Anyway, that's all fair. The people who are making decent money living in cities should go out to Michigan and spend some time looking for a factory job or talking to the workers who have been dealing with a shitty situation for decades.
> If we pin this election on coastal elites, we are excusing white working-class and rural Americans for voting for a man accused of violating the Fair Housing Act by refusing to rent apartments to black people. If we pin this election on coastal elites, we are excusing white working-class and rural Americans for voting for a man who called Mexicans rapists, drug dealers and criminals. If we pin this election on coastal elites, we are excusing white working-class and rural Americans for voting for a man who called for a complete ban on Muslim immigration.
Yes, people did vote for a man who said/did all those things. We can choose to believe these people are just racists/sexists/too dumb to do anything else, or we can ask them why and see what the response is.
You can also ask why the democratic voters just didn't feel bothered to show up. Was this just arrogance? Was it apathy?
> We will never return to the days where a white man could barely graduate high school and walk onto a factory floor at 18 and get a well-paying job for life. That hasn’t set in for much of the Midwest.
The problem isn't the 18 year old who's upset about a factory job he can't get. It's the 50 year old who's job is gone, or under constant threat. It's about the 35 year old who's life hasn't really gone anywhere, because he got caught in the whole thing falling apart.
You tell someone who is living the good life on the coast that it's time to "make america great again!" and they will wonder what wrong with it. Say it to someone in Michigan and they will remember that Detroit used to have the highest per capita income in the country.
- lithos 10y agoPretty sane compared to some of the posts here. It seems like people are completely ignoring that all age groups are involved. It's very easy to say make America great again and capture: the 80 year old that has had there retirement plan disappear from a company going to rust, to capture the 50 year old that wants to help their children through college (but instead needs help themselves), it's pretty easy to capture the people who watch a plant/factory finally get off shored (after its third try of doing so, this time with the only apparent difference of NAFTA). It's also pretty easy to see the opposite candidate 'playing dirty' against the person who would have been a great help to their child, having secret meetings with the 'type of people'(financial) that helped create a region called the rust belt (that's bigger than all but a handful of countries), and it's pretty easy to see a candidate so unversed with dealing with people unlike her that she can't even properly shame them (while I imagine most people can't shame Trump, better is expected of a candidate. The last one isn't my words). Likewise grew up in Wisconsin (now in VA), even voted against the nightmare that is Trump. But a lot of people here are lacking perspectives on other parts of the country. they are a lot more similar to their rainbow workforce (perspective, daily problems, expectations, fortune, humor) than they think they are, even if they do differ culturally.