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> From all accounts he simply doesn't have the intellectual stamina Can you elaborate on what accounts these are? The only estimate I've seen of his intelligen

> From all accounts he simply doesn't have the intellectual stamina Can you elaborate on what accounts these are? The only estimate I've seen of his intelligence was based the school he graduated from.

threeseed 10y ago
Intellectual stamina != Intelligence. I am referring to the fact that the Presidency has been described as far more an exercise in patience, absorbing information and careful deliberation than say running a typical business especially a dynamic one like Trump used to. He is by all accounts a very smart guy. But by all accounts he isn't a particularly patient one.
- reflexive 10y ago
  by all accounts I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm just asking you to cite one or more of these accounts describing his lack of intellectual stamina.
  - threeseed 10y ago
    "1986 memo I wrote re: Art of the Deal. Trump couldn't focus for interviews. Can't focus now for debate prep" - Tony Schwartz (who wrote Art of the Deal) And we all saw through the 3 debates that Trump started off well and then really struggled towards the end e.g. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/clinton-trump-first-debate-election-2016/trump-fails-the-stamina-test http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/clint...
- ant6n 10y ago
  I wonder whether you are getting voted down because you're suggesting Trump is smart, or because you're saying he's impatient. This account [1] by the ghostwriter who wrote 'Art of the deal', who spent months with him, suggests that he is neither smart nor patient. Over his long life, starting with a very silver spoon that he wasn't able to destroy, he effectively focussed most of his energy to coming up with a couple of heuristics for making deals and communication. I get the impression he spent most of his life's effort on something that might be called 'social hacking' here. [1] http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-g...
woofyman 10y ago
Tony Schwartz who ghost wrote " The art of the deal" spent 18 months following trump around. http://jpupdates.com/2016/07/19/art-of-the-deal-ghostwriter-tony-schwartz-describes-trump-as-a-sociopath-in-new-yorker-article/ http://jpupdates.com/2016/07/19/art-of-the-deal-ghostwriter-...
- gethoht 10y ago
  Wow this is fucking terrifying
xbmcuser 10y ago
Simple example Obama thinks single payer health care would be the best thing. But to that they would have to almost destroy a trillion dollar industry and millions will loose jobs. So has to move with smaller steps. Trump thinks Illegal immigrants from Mexico are taking American jobs. So he just ships them all back and closes the border(builds the wall) in one go. I don't think he will consider the fact that would destroy a lot of farms in the Midwest who are surviving because of cheap Mexican labour. And if he really wants to do something about he should go gradually about it and not put a blanket stop on it. Some of his trade ideas are actually good will cause inflation but would probably also bring more jobs to the US.
- oldmanjay 10y ago
  Take a look sometime at the executive compensation that Obama's "smaller steps" provided for the insurance industry. They're definitely not lobbying against Obamacare.

threeseed 10y ago

Intellectual stamina != Intelligence. I am referring to the fact that the Presidency has been described as far more an exercise in patience, absorbing information and careful deliberation than say running a typical business especially a dynamic one like Trump used to. He is by all accounts a very smart guy. But by all accounts he isn't a particularly patient one.

reflexive 10y ago
by all accounts I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm just asking you to cite one or more of these accounts describing his lack of intellectual stamina.
- threeseed 10y ago
  "1986 memo I wrote re: Art of the Deal. Trump couldn't focus for interviews. Can't focus now for debate prep" - Tony Schwartz (who wrote Art of the Deal) And we all saw through the 3 debates that Trump started off well and then really struggled towards the end e.g. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/clinton-trump-first-debate-election-2016/trump-fails-the-stamina-test http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/clint...
ant6n 10y ago
I wonder whether you are getting voted down because you're suggesting Trump is smart, or because you're saying he's impatient. This account [1] by the ghostwriter who wrote 'Art of the deal', who spent months with him, suggests that he is neither smart nor patient. Over his long life, starting with a very silver spoon that he wasn't able to destroy, he effectively focussed most of his energy to coming up with a couple of heuristics for making deals and communication. I get the impression he spent most of his life's effort on something that might be called 'social hacking' here. [1] http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-g...

woofyman 10y ago

Tony Schwartz who ghost wrote " The art of the deal" spent 18 months following trump around. http://jpupdates.com/2016/07/19/art-of-the-deal-ghostwriter-tony-schwartz-describes-trump-as-a-sociopath-in-new-yorker-article/ http://jpupdates.com/2016/07/19/art-of-the-deal-ghostwriter-...

gethoht 10y ago
Wow this is fucking terrifying

xbmcuser 10y ago

Simple example Obama thinks single payer health care would be the best thing. But to that they would have to almost destroy a trillion dollar industry and millions will loose jobs. So has to move with smaller steps. Trump thinks Illegal immigrants from Mexico are taking American jobs. So he just ships them all back and closes the border(builds the wall) in one go. I don't think he will consider the fact that would destroy a lot of farms in the Midwest who are surviving because of cheap Mexican labour. And if he really wants to do something about he should go gradually about it and not put a blanket stop on it. Some of his trade ideas are actually good will cause inflation but would probably also bring more jobs to the US.

oldmanjay 10y ago
Take a look sometime at the executive compensation that Obama's "smaller steps" provided for the insurance industry. They're definitely not lobbying against Obamacare.