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This would probably kick off a trend if it were successful here. None of the other blue states would be satisfied with the loss of our progressive electoral col

This would probably kick off a trend if it were successful here. None of the other blue states would be satisfied with the loss of our progressive electoral college voting bloc. It'd put Republicans in the awkward position of denouncing the progressive left's sudden support of states' rights. California, on the other hand, would continue to be a terrific place to live. Preliminarily I would consider supporting #Calexit

mc32 10y ago
Yeah, till the other states take the water rights away. Or the conservative sierras secede in turn and then you have no snowmelt either. But really, this is ill-advised. It's the same thing in Alaska when they don't like the winner -they whine. People don't realize that as LatAm immigrants assimilate into the fabric and Americanize, they tend to drift conservative, so be careful what you wish for. Also, remember, once California's electoral college is disbanded, goodbye democrats for what, 40, 50 years in the rest of the states? For this reason democrats in the other states would be against it --they'd lose their California democratic bank (monetarily, electorally and congressionally)
- joshlittle 10y ago
  Depending on the outcome, I think that we'd be able to figure some solution that works for what would become the nation of California (based on what land actually CalExits.) Worst case scenario - either de-salt the water in the ocean, or buy it. If the United States can sell electricity with Mexico given our contentious at times relationship, I'm sure we could figure it out. Totally agree with you - in principle it would be difficult, messy, and would very much be a disruptive conversation to have with America. Then again, even the Trump campaign expected they would be unsuccessful in the end.
nitwit005 10y ago
The reason we consistently end up with a roughly equal two party split is because the need to get 51% of the vote. The Democrats would just adjust the party platform and pull some dis-satisfied portion(s) of the Republican party in until the vote was roughly 50-50 again.

mc32 10y ago

Yeah, till the other states take the water rights away. Or the conservative sierras secede in turn and then you have no snowmelt either. But really, this is ill-advised. It's the same thing in Alaska when they don't like the winner -they whine. People don't realize that as LatAm immigrants assimilate into the fabric and Americanize, they tend to drift conservative, so be careful what you wish for. Also, remember, once California's electoral college is disbanded, goodbye democrats for what, 40, 50 years in the rest of the states? For this reason democrats in the other states would be against it --they'd lose their California democratic bank (monetarily, electorally and congressionally)

joshlittle 10y ago
Depending on the outcome, I think that we'd be able to figure some solution that works for what would become the nation of California (based on what land actually CalExits.) Worst case scenario - either de-salt the water in the ocean, or buy it. If the United States can sell electricity with Mexico given our contentious at times relationship, I'm sure we could figure it out. Totally agree with you - in principle it would be difficult, messy, and would very much be a disruptive conversation to have with America. Then again, even the Trump campaign expected they would be unsuccessful in the end.

nitwit005 10y ago

The reason we consistently end up with a roughly equal two party split is because the need to get 51% of the vote. The Democrats would just adjust the party platform and pull some dis-satisfied portion(s) of the Republican party in until the vote was roughly 50-50 again.