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> There's a difference between respecting someone's ideological preference, and discouraging hate speech No there is not. "Hate speech" is what liberals call i
by fdsaaf 10y ago
> There's a difference between respecting someone's ideological preference, and discouraging hate speech
No there is not. "Hate speech" is what liberals call inconvenient conservative speech. Approving all speech except "hate speech" is just declaring that you will censor speech you find disagreeable.
The only legitimate speech restrictions are viewpoint-neutral no matter what the viewpoint.
- yequalsx 10y agoI think it would be best to delete your second sentence. Let's not delve too deeply into group A vs. group B. Your comment would be much better without it. You are right that hate speech is a charge that can get blown out of proportion. The question then becomes how to define it in a way that protects ideological differences.
- MaysonL 10y ago"You're a dirty monkey and should go back to Africa" is inconvenient conservative speech? You'll have a difficult time defending that statement.
- masondixon 10y agoWhat if a black person said this to another black person? My point is that "hate speech" is not clear cut. Today, the left is using it to silence any opposition. If someone says "hate speech" is writing "Trump" on the ground with chalk, where does it end? How do you draw the line?
- revx 10y agoI think I was pretty clear about where I draw the line. > your liberties to express ideology end where someone else's human rights begin. I won't respect your opinion if it disrespects someone's existence.
- generic_user 10y agoWe are discussing these terms in a specific context of this email. Wild straw men arguments do not contribute to the discussion. Unless you can find someone saying, > You're a dirty monkey and should go back to Africa I would refrain from such bombast.
- fdsaaf 10y agoThat statement is absolutely protected speech.
- revx 10y agoI think you're mistaking the purpose of the 1st amendment. Racist comments are protected speech in that the United States Government cannot arrest/imprison/etc. you for that kind of speech. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of repercussions for your speech. New York is an at-will state, meaning there is no legal problem with this email. There is no protection for people getting fired for hate speech, just like there is no legal protection for people boycotting or refusing to work for companies that they disagree with.
- fdsaaf 10y agoPrivate enterprises aren't required by law to uphold a high standard of free speech, but being decent Americans does. The government MUST NOT censor, but private companies SHOULD NOT.
- revx 10y agoI think we have a very different standard of what a "decent American" is. Perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree for now.