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Tangential Question: Would you say that Thinkpads are still the safest bet if you're looking for good RHEL/Fedora support & updates?

by mwambua 10y ago

hd4 10y ago
Relevant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12911310 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12911310
- pritambaral 10y ago
  Those aren't ThinkPads. The ThinkPads are an semi-independent division within Lenovo.
jsight 10y ago
A lot of Red Hat employees (and engineers) use them. At least some of the models are very well supported.
derekp7 10y ago
For the Thinkpads, yes. Lenovo is one of the companies that maintains a list such as this: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd031426 https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd031426 (This is a list of computers that they have certified one or more Linux distros against -- typically RHEL and Ubuntu). Any of the problems that you usually hear are typically on their non-Thinkpad lines.
- dotancohen 10y ago
  Unfortunately, currently that supported machines list is empty!
  - derekp7 10y ago
    It isn't when I bring it up -- I wonder if there is a javascript issue that is causing a problem (such as with noscript, or an adblocker?) I'm seeing about 25 pages of systems. For current systems, I'm seeing the T460, T460p (with Ubuntu 14.04), and T460s with both Ubuntu and RHEL 7.2. Also seeing the X1 carbon, and X1 carbon yoga with Ubuntu certification. For the X260, for example, it has these links: https://access.redhat.com/ecosystem/hardware/2199571 https://access.redhat.com/ecosystem/hardware/2199571 http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201511-20298/ http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201511-20298/
    - dotancohen 10y ago
      I'm also seeing the full page now. I do use an adblocker in Firefox but not in Chrome and the page looked the same in both browsers. Thank you!
mjg59 10y ago
Ish, but if you're considering something ultrabookish then the Dell XPS range has the most people working on it. Probably better sticking with Thinkpads if RHEL is a hard requirement.
sandGorgon 10y ago
XPS 13 and 15 (or the equivalent Precision series) No question about it. Lenovo has hardware whitelists and has frequently broken Linux compatibility with its BIOS.
- bildung 10y ago
  >* frequently broken Linux compatibility with its BIOS.* No, not on Thinkpads.
virtualwhys 10y ago
7 years on the Dell Precision line with Fedora, amazing machines. Fedora, given its leading edge nature, will have better hardware support than RHEL as the latest firmware will always come first to the former.

Tangential Question: Would you say that Thinkpads are still the safest bet if you're looking for good RHEL/Fedora support & updates?

by mwambua 10y ago

Tangential Question: Would you say that Thinkpads are still the safest bet if you're looking for good RHEL/Fedora support & updates?

hd4 10y ago

Relevant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12911310 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12911310

pritambaral 10y ago
Those aren't ThinkPads. The ThinkPads are an semi-independent division within Lenovo.

jsight 10y ago

A lot of Red Hat employees (and engineers) use them. At least some of the models are very well supported.

derekp7 10y ago

For the Thinkpads, yes. Lenovo is one of the companies that maintains a list such as this: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd031426 https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd031426 (This is a list of computers that they have certified one or more Linux distros against -- typically RHEL and Ubuntu). Any of the problems that you usually hear are typically on their non-Thinkpad lines.

dotancohen 10y ago
Unfortunately, currently that supported machines list is empty!
- derekp7 10y ago
  It isn't when I bring it up -- I wonder if there is a javascript issue that is causing a problem (such as with noscript, or an adblocker?) I'm seeing about 25 pages of systems. For current systems, I'm seeing the T460, T460p (with Ubuntu 14.04), and T460s with both Ubuntu and RHEL 7.2. Also seeing the X1 carbon, and X1 carbon yoga with Ubuntu certification. For the X260, for example, it has these links: https://access.redhat.com/ecosystem/hardware/2199571 https://access.redhat.com/ecosystem/hardware/2199571 http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201511-20298/ http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201511-20298/
  - dotancohen 10y ago
    I'm also seeing the full page now. I do use an adblocker in Firefox but not in Chrome and the page looked the same in both browsers. Thank you!

mjg59 10y ago

Ish, but if you're considering something ultrabookish then the Dell XPS range has the most people working on it. Probably better sticking with Thinkpads if RHEL is a hard requirement.

sandGorgon 10y ago

XPS 13 and 15 (or the equivalent Precision series) No question about it. Lenovo has hardware whitelists and has frequently broken Linux compatibility with its BIOS.

bildung 10y ago
>* frequently broken Linux compatibility with its BIOS.* No, not on Thinkpads.

virtualwhys 10y ago

7 years on the Dell Precision line with Fedora, amazing machines. Fedora, given its leading edge nature, will have better hardware support than RHEL as the latest firmware will always come first to the former.