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Wikileaks has it's own issues - the suggestions of Russian influence, the timing of their data releases, questions about Assages political bias against the US/C

by knz 10y ago

Wikileaks has it's own issues - the suggestions of Russian influence, the timing of their data releases, questions about Assages political bias against the US/Clintons etc. "People need to do their own research if they want to form conclusions not just little to prepackaged conclusions." - I could not agree more.

tomp 10y ago
Would you rather that Wikileaks kept the information for itself? Wouldn't that be just as much of an influence on the election?
- knz 10y ago
  Personally I think they should just leak it all rather than controlling the flow to suit their political agenda.
  - gregpardo 10y ago
    I'll agree with this.
  - tomp 10y ago
    The way I understand, they've been burned before by leaking all at the same time - there's an initial "shock", theneveryone forgets about it. If your purpose is generating the maximum amount of outrage and controversy (and, consequentially, change), it makes sense to publish things slowly. Although I agree that the timing was probably connected with the US elections. But again, that's a good think - the only way organisations will change is if it will hurt them. Now both US parties know that they can easily be targets next time.
    - sushiwarrior 10y ago
      So is Wikileaks an organization interested in free information, or using "free information" for maximum political effect? If they are twisting the knife and trying to find out how to cause the maximum possible damage for one side only, then they are clearly not a neutral organization and obviously should be treated as such. If their goal is maximum political discourse, then they are obviously a political organization, not an information or "truth" organization.
      - tomp 10y ago
        Why do you think they wouldn't be causing damage for the other side, if they could? I mean, even if they had emails of the GOP, I doubt it would really hurt Trump in any way, it's not like he had their support anyways... Actually, it would probably help him!

by knz 10y ago

tomp 10y ago

Would you rather that Wikileaks kept the information for itself? Wouldn't that be just as much of an influence on the election?

knz 10y ago
Personally I think they should just leak it all rather than controlling the flow to suit their political agenda.
- gregpardo 10y ago
  I'll agree with this.
- tomp 10y ago
  The way I understand, they've been burned before by leaking all at the same time - there's an initial "shock", theneveryone forgets about it. If your purpose is generating the maximum amount of outrage and controversy (and, consequentially, change), it makes sense to publish things slowly. Although I agree that the timing was probably connected with the US elections. But again, that's a good think - the only way organisations will change is if it will hurt them. Now both US parties know that they can easily be targets next time.
  - sushiwarrior 10y ago
    So is Wikileaks an organization interested in free information, or using "free information" for maximum political effect? If they are twisting the knife and trying to find out how to cause the maximum possible damage for one side only, then they are clearly not a neutral organization and obviously should be treated as such. If their goal is maximum political discourse, then they are obviously a political organization, not an information or "truth" organization.
    - tomp 10y ago
      Why do you think they wouldn't be causing damage for the other side, if they could? I mean, even if they had emails of the GOP, I doubt it would really hurt Trump in any way, it's not like he had their support anyways... Actually, it would probably help him!