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Is there a reason why the power adapter wouldn't include a USB-C cable? Can it be used without it? Does the power adapter work with older Macs using a different

Is there a reason why the power adapter wouldn't include a USB-C cable? Can it be used without it? Does the power adapter work with older Macs using a different cable? I'm not trying to forgive apple, I'm trying to understand why/how a decision like this could be made.

askvictor 10y ago
My only guess is they figure you can take the cable with you. Assuming the wall wart is easy to access to plug and unplug.
- jakobegger 10y ago
  If you bother wrapping up your cable to stuff it in your bag, you might as well put the brick in too.
chrisl99 10y ago
The only reason I can think of, is you can use a USB-C-to-Lightning cable and use it as a fast charger for iPad Pro.
- dogma1138 10y ago
  Eh? They can put the intended cable in the box, any other use you want to get out of it - bring your own cable. This is selling a device that is not fit for purpose especially since apple says to use their chargers and cables only.
  - nicky0 10y ago
    That's like saying they shouldn't sell cables on their own because they don't come with anything to plug them into.
twiceaday 10y ago
Perhaps most people who buy an adapter do it to replace an old one, so you can use the old cable. I prefer things modular like this. It lets me re-use / buy the right length cable for the use-case. The only problem I see is the price here.
- rincebrain 10y ago
  The prior generation of MBP didn't use USB-C for laptop charging, though, so nobody except Macbook Air users would be doing this. (I don't know if all USB-C cables were required to be able to carry 87W, so I'd be slightly wary of reusing cables for that at the moment, too...) edit: someone downthread pointed out that the laptop itself comes with the USB-C cable you'd use for this, so this makes more sense now.
x0x0 10y ago
My suggestion is there's 19 reasons times the number of people who buy a second or third charger...
jsz0 10y ago
The best reasons I can think of are: 1. Combating e-waste. Pack-in cables are convenient but not always needed. 2. It encourages people to buy and use the appropriate length cable for their needs. With USB-C it's a lot harder to include a 'good for most people' length because the cable connected to the laptop for charging doesn't have to connect directly to the DC adapter.

askvictor 10y ago

My only guess is they figure you can take the cable with you. Assuming the wall wart is easy to access to plug and unplug.

jakobegger 10y ago
If you bother wrapping up your cable to stuff it in your bag, you might as well put the brick in too.

chrisl99 10y ago

The only reason I can think of, is you can use a USB-C-to-Lightning cable and use it as a fast charger for iPad Pro.

dogma1138 10y ago
Eh? They can put the intended cable in the box, any other use you want to get out of it - bring your own cable. This is selling a device that is not fit for purpose especially since apple says to use their chargers and cables only.
- nicky0 10y ago
  That's like saying they shouldn't sell cables on their own because they don't come with anything to plug them into.

twiceaday 10y ago

Perhaps most people who buy an adapter do it to replace an old one, so you can use the old cable. I prefer things modular like this. It lets me re-use / buy the right length cable for the use-case. The only problem I see is the price here.

rincebrain 10y ago
The prior generation of MBP didn't use USB-C for laptop charging, though, so nobody except Macbook Air users would be doing this. (I don't know if all USB-C cables were required to be able to carry 87W, so I'd be slightly wary of reusing cables for that at the moment, too...) edit: someone downthread pointed out that the laptop itself comes with the USB-C cable you'd use for this, so this makes more sense now.

x0x0 10y ago

My suggestion is there's 19 reasons times the number of people who buy a second or third charger...

jsz0 10y ago

The best reasons I can think of are: 1. Combating e-waste. Pack-in cables are convenient but not always needed. 2. It encourages people to buy and use the appropriate length cable for their needs. With USB-C it's a lot harder to include a 'good for most people' length because the cable connected to the laptop for charging doesn't have to connect directly to the DC adapter.