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The Electoral College is only hated by Democrats because it would unfairly give the coasts with the largest cities (New York and California) an unfair advantage

The Electoral College is only hated by Democrats because it would unfairly give the coasts with the largest cities (New York and California) an unfair advantage in all future elections...which just happen to be completely Democrat. I, for one, don't want the those two states dictating law for the entire US. The system is not perfect, but human nature has not changed in 200 years, and the founders were brilliant when it was designed. I would have accepted either candidate because this is how a free nation works. You vote, and the results might not be what you like. The Democrats need to clean their wounds, figure out why they lost, and actually learn the needs of the people. CNN and many of the other MSM has even tried to pass Trump's win off as uneducated white men and women, which couldn't be further from the truth. My Facebook feed has been filled with some of the most hypocritical and childish people I have ever seen. Before the election, everyone around me was saying that if Trump supporters protest the election results, it was hurting the Democratic process. Now that Trump won, there are protests everywhere (including those same people). Once again, it proves to me that most people only support things out of their own self-interest and if given even the slightest amount of power, they wouldn't give the other side any freedoms or rights. It's easy to see how evil dictators of our past came to power (and no, Trump is not an evil dictator) and millions of 'undesirables' get slaughtered with ease. I'm one of the only people I know that gives everyone a chance (even if I don't like what they have to say). I find even seemingly intelligent people seem to lose their shit and immediately argue like a teenager when there are dissenting viewpoints. Safe spaces only make this kind of behavior worse. The problem is that it's becoming harder and harder to have a view or an opinion that diverges from the current narrative. If you want to have a civil discussion, you will be silenced, attacked (sometimes physically and online), and you might even get fired from your job (if someone decides to contact your employer or boycott it). This is why the election polls were so wrong: many people feared telling anyone they were going to vote for Trump because they didn't want to get attacked and possibly lose their livelihood.

dragonwriter 10y ago
Having our votes counted equally with everyone else's isn't an unfair advantage. Not that regional inequities are the only reasons the EC is opposed. The fact that it is a strong positive incentive for states to disenfranchise the locally unpopular (because every citizen disenfranchised in a state increases the relative power of other citizens in that state, nut not those in other states, in national elections) is another. The historical fact that it was one of many measures in the original Constitution (several of the other of which have since been abandoned or expired) designed to thwart democracy in order to protect slavery is another.
kafkaesq 10y ago
CNN and many of the other MSM has even tried to pass Trump's win off as uneducated white men and women, which couldn't be further from the truth. If you look at polling data, there are consistent correlations between education level and stated voting intent. So while there are definitely a number of complex factors at play, but I wouldn't say that that statement "couldn't be further for the truth". Before the election, everyone around me was saying that if Trump supporters protest the election results, it was hurting the Democratic process. Now that Trump won, there are protests everywhere (including those same people). My read on the protests it that people are overwhelmingly protesting the hate, ignorance and general obnoxiousness behind the vote -- not the electoral vote itself. And in particular, they're not employing birther-style denialist tactics against it (which you can be quite sure Trump's people would have done, had things either not gone his way).

dragonwriter 10y ago

Having our votes counted equally with everyone else's isn't an unfair advantage. Not that regional inequities are the only reasons the EC is opposed. The fact that it is a strong positive incentive for states to disenfranchise the locally unpopular (because every citizen disenfranchised in a state increases the relative power of other citizens in that state, nut not those in other states, in national elections) is another. The historical fact that it was one of many measures in the original Constitution (several of the other of which have since been abandoned or expired) designed to thwart democracy in order to protect slavery is another.

kafkaesq 10y ago

CNN and many of the other MSM has even tried to pass Trump's win off as uneducated white men and women, which couldn't be further from the truth. If you look at polling data, there are consistent correlations between education level and stated voting intent. So while there are definitely a number of complex factors at play, but I wouldn't say that that statement "couldn't be further for the truth". Before the election, everyone around me was saying that if Trump supporters protest the election results, it was hurting the Democratic process. Now that Trump won, there are protests everywhere (including those same people). My read on the protests it that people are overwhelmingly protesting the hate, ignorance and general obnoxiousness behind the vote -- not the electoral vote itself. And in particular, they're not employing birther-style denialist tactics against it (which you can be quite sure Trump's people would have done, had things either not gone his way).