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GreatAgain.gov
- joshmn 10y agoCan't imagine people were happy to sign off on this domain name.
- Normal_gaussian 10y agoFrom what I understand a large portion of people would be happy to sign off on that domain name, another large portion wouldn't, and a final large portion would not fall into either camp. Of course the reasons for each are diverse, contradictory, and surprising.
- incogitomode 10y agoYou're assuming these specific people were representative of the nation as a whole.
- cmdrfred 10y agoIf people wished to be represented, they would have voted.
- joshmn 10y agoThe GSA[0] actually administers .gov domains, and I can only assume that with all of Obama's modernizing of Government that they've started to like him a little bit. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Services_Administration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Services_Administratio...
- sethbannon 10y agoSeeing the .gov really makes it hurt.
- 1mrankhan 10y ago.gov damn it, makes me sad.
- vvpan 10y agoAs great as it was wheeeen...?
- snowwindwaves 10y ago"meet the future first lady". hadn't even considered that until now!
- omegaworks 10y agoThis is real. This will be a true test of America's design. Remember, America is a decentralized set of institutions. In theory DC should have very little effect on my life here in California. Join with your local communities and make sure your voice is heard. Fight to protect the vulnerable. We can't sit back and watch this happen to our friends and neighbors: https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/photos/a.799605230078397.1073741828.799539910084929/1194283823943867/?type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/photos/a.799605230078397.... http://jpupdates.com/2015/11/11/florida-home-defaced-with-swastika-graffiti-on-garage-door/ http://jpupdates.com/2015/11/11/florida-home-defaced-with-sw...
- benjaminjosephw 10y agoLooks like a great way to crowd source popular policy ideas.
- edwhitesell 10y agoThe certificate is dated October 31. Assuming Hillary had something similar waiting and ready, I wonder what it was...
- ajross 10y agoThe Clinton campaign policy priorities were right there on the campaign web site. They were voluminous, and well thought-out, and written/backed by serious domain experts, and thoroughly ignored by everyone because emailz. Seriously contrast the stuff there with the pablum here, which boils down to junk like "education is important yo" and "we're going to eliminate excess regulation about, like, stuff". I weep.
- presidentender 10y agoThe same was true in 2008, during the primaries. Clinton's site had actual policies, Obama's had hand-waving.
- cmdrfred 10y agoUnfortunately those were the pubic positions not the private ones.
- mixedCase 10y agoAnd ajross chose to ignore the private positions because they were in "the emailz". How fitting.
- cjjuice 10y agoWhere's that IoT bot net when you need it.
- leesalminen 10y ago> Share your ideas https://apply.ptt.gov/yourstory https://apply.ptt.gov/yourstory > President Elect Trump has promised to change Washington, DC and that will start with identifying and recruiting the finest men and women from across the country to serve in his Administration. Any individual who wishes to serve the Administration should utilize this online application in order to participate. https://apply.ptt.gov/ https://apply.ptt.gov/
- vedranm 10y agoInteresting. While [1] claims "President Elect Trump has promised to change Washington, DC and that will start with identifying and recruiting the finest men and women from across the country to serve in his Administration.", this website also allows for non-US citizens to apply. Does anyone have the information if the application is open for non-US citizens, provided that they fulfill the requirements to become US citizens? [1] https://www.greatagain.gov/serve-america.html https://www.greatagain.gov/serve-america.html
- tluyben2 10y agoRace dropdown...
- leesalminen 10y ago...which is optional? Pretty sure that whole optional section is pure demographic collection popular with many large employers.
- grzm 10y agoThat's pretty typical of a lot of government forms in my experience, for collecting demographic information. While it might be tempting to read more into this, I'm not sure it's justified in this case.
- sandworm101 10y agoThat is very normal in the US. Race seems to be atop many forms. Just today I had to rewrite a medical history form being used by a canadian government agency (mostly a 'do you suffer fainting spells?' type of form). They had adopted a form obviously written for a US audience and "race/ethnicity:___" came just after middle names. That's just not asked in Canada without a very good medical reason, for which this agency had absolutely none. It was a rush job.
- kamac 10y agoDid previous presidents run similar websites where they'd list the stuff they want to change? Also, from https://www.greatagain.gov/meet-president-elect.html https://www.greatagain.gov/meet-president-elect.html > "Donald J. Trump is the very definition of an American success story, continually setting the standards of excellence for real estate, sports and entertainment" How humble.
- koenigdavidmj 10y agoObama had change.gov during his transition, but it no longer exists.
- underbluewaters 10y agoI was really devastated on Tuesday (and still am) but submitting ideas here makes me feel a little better. It's likely that there are ideas you have that can be supported by a Republican President so get to work.
- neogodless 10y agoCan anyone find the part of the web site that explains how everything will be paid for, especially the tax cuts?
- brian-armstrong 10y agoThe standard response you'll get to this question is that tax cuts will, supposedly, cause so much growth that they're revenue neutral
- randyrand 10y agoThat was fast. I'm actually impressed. Edit: not from a technological aspect. They probably had the site ready to go already. But from a human coordination standpoint.
- ajross 10y agoProbably because you didn't read the text. There's literally no content here, even less than he had on his campaign website. You're "impressed" with some web geek throwing together a demo site. This election in a nutshell.
- randyrand 10y agoNo. Technologically it's not all that impressive, it's the human element that is. They moved on this really quickly. It's surprising the coordination to get this done can be done in a day.
- ajross 10y agoProbably half the commenters on this very thread (not me, I don't do web stuff) could have produced a site as good or better in half the time. Are you serious?
- randyrand 10y agoLike I said, it's not the technological aspect that is impressive. It's he human aspect. How quickly they coordinated this.
- ajross 10y agoGah, WHAT human aspect? All this is is a mediocre distillation of junk said on the campaign page. There's no new content. Nothing. You're seriously cheering on an organization that can write a boring summarization of some text in 36 hours (which they didn't, as mentioned the cert is more than a week old). I can handle fact that he was elected, I guess. But this kind of celebration of mediocrity by his "supporters" who really should know better is just too much.
- chris_wot 10y agoIs the following normal? Genuinely curious: https://www.greatagain.gov/news/help-wanted-4000-presidential-appointees.html https://www.greatagain.gov/news/help-wanted-4000-presidentia...
- barretts 10y agoYes, Obama also opened up a jobs portal on his transition site.
- thrillgore 10y agoThis is actually going to happen, isn't it? I need to expedite this british citizenship process
- Normal_gaussian 10y agoPlease don't. If you are coming over here because you can't stomach your country and not for any great desire to contribute to mine I don't want you here.
- Gabriel_Martin 10y agoYou realize that most people don't emigrate with the express desire to become a public servant in their new home, right? This person could easily be leaving due to the rhetoric that affects people of color, or women. Sorry that isn't a noble enough of a reason to leave, but that's how it is for some. People don't want to remain somewhere they're not welcome. Related, could you share some of your contributions to your country? Perhaps they can do the same, if you illuminate the opportunity?
- ryanx435 10y agoOr, just as easily, they are trying to signal value to their perceived tribe and just want to validate themselves with the group.
- Normal_gaussian 10y agoA public servant isn't the only or the best way to contribute to your own country, unless you show a special talent for it of course. And in regards to my contributions to my own country? I find it rather presumptuous for you to demand mine without providing your own, however I will give them. They aren't much but, at 23, I am still building the foundations. Most of my time is currently focused on our small company where we have been building a loss prevention solution for rural areas (we are now hiring, practical data scientists and developers in Hampshire, UK. Our stack is C, PostgreSQL, NodeJS, and some Java. If you have the right to work here and want to, send your CV + intro to contact@telemetricor.com . Note that our main website is currently slightly out of date as we have, over the last year and a half, performed a significant pivot into the incredibly useful TelemetriCop system). I spend portions of my spare time volunteering at a local animal shelter, and managing a debate group, I used to do more but my actual work is now more intense (and I feel contributes more to our society by mitigating the effectiveness of those who seek to detract from it).
- outworlder 10y agoThis focus on the person instead of measures is very, very concerning. Seriously, there's a video feature prominently called "My Dad". Pictures of him everywhere. I'll stop making fun of North Korea.
- simonsarris 10y agoFunny you say that, here in NH that was a big criticism of Clinton. Clinton's campaign: "I'm with her." Trump's campaign: "Make America Great Again."
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- micaksica 10y agoDo you remember the Obama campaign? Some cult of personality always exists around charismatic leaders. Fairey's "Hope" poster was an epitome of personality-driven political propaganda.
- thisisdallas 10y ago> Do you remember the Obama presidency? ftfy
- simosx 10y agoHere is the section on Immigration, https://www.greatagain.gov/policy/immigration.html https://www.greatagain.gov/policy/immigration.html First point: "Build a Wall on the Southern Border"
- kamac 10y agoSo it wasn't a joke after all.
- simonsarris 10y agoIt was never a joke: https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf
- kamac 10y agoI wonder if they have already picked a height for it. Four metres sounds good to me.
- vaishaksuresh 10y agoAs an Immigrant, the list depresses me. It is evident that the person who came up with the list does not consider immigrants as people.
- vedranm 10y agoIf you are a legal immigrant, that's very different from being an illegal immigrant. Media has spent enormous effort to try to blurry the difference, but it is there and it is huge. Legal immigration is in the interest of the country and legal immigrants have to meet certain conditions and pass background checks. Illegal immigrants do not do any of that.
- ethbro 10y agoHopefully take some small solace in the fact that half the country is very pro-immigrant, coupled with the truth that most of the vitriol from the other half is economic rather than personal. If rural America wasn't hemorrhaging livable jobs, then I daresay we'd see next to no anti-immigration sentiment.
- nanreh 10y agoThis is the whitest web page I've seen in a while.
- micaksica 10y agoIf we're going to upvote these things on Hacker News, can we try to stick to comments that are less butt-hurt and more constructive? Yes, the technology industry is reeling from the fact that the preferred candidate did not win. However, we are supposed to be hackers here, not some whiny intelligentsia. Please take off your sad hat and put back on the hacker hat. Bend the rules. Enact the change that you can from the position you are in. Get involved in any way you can. We cannot change the results of the election, but we can work with the framework and try to improve it for the better. Embrace the suck, and let's step forward in any way possible.
- ethbro 10y agoWas going to post something similar myself. No offense, but a lot of my liberal-leaning colleagues/friends/HN users sound like whinier Republicans when Democrats were in power. Progress used to be made in the US through compromise. I want one thing, another person wants another, we sit down and bash out what's acceptable to both of us and the country is the better for that negotiation. There are Trump policies that I will fight possibly to my death should they ever be attempted, but there are also a non-zero number I think might be good for this country. As micaksica suggested, hackers act on the world they have, not on the world they wish existed.
- Bartweiss 10y agoAnd frankly, it seems to me that the easiest and most peaceful way to avoid the worst of Trump is to encourage the best of Trump. He has to do something, and he doesn't seem to particularly care what, so let's keep him busy. Already, he's announced several populist, nonpartisan goals which have been slapped down by Congressional Republicans. They're tame, approval-building pieces of legislation and they're infinitely more appealing than most of his campaign focuses. If Trump wants to spend a year and a lot of political capital forcing through a sensible infrastructure repair bill, I will be writing letters to help him do it. We could fight him at every turn, but I think we'll all be better off if we decide what we can support and make that an easy path to take.
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- andrewfong 10y agoAnyone know if anything from Digital Service and 18F will get transitioned over? I'll be extra sad if making America great again also means making all the websites ugly and unusable too.
- brian-armstrong 10y agoI don't think the outlook is very good, sadly. I suspect many of the nifty extras that came about under Obama will get the axe
- leesalminen 10y agoI do hope 18F remains and even grows.
- thisisdallas 10y agoMy cynical nature tells most people were only at 18F because of Obama. I wouldn't be surprised if most of them leave because Trump was elected.
- ethbro 10y agoThat seems a bit petty. I can understand not feeling plused about replumbing EPA web infrastructure if the agency has been executively neutered, but it doesn't make the work, benefit to citizens, or cost savings any less important. And honestly, with a President who seems (perhaps overly) inclined to break things, there may be new opportunities for dragging aging digital infrastructure into the modern era.
- DjangoReinhardt 10y agoThe page on Tax Reform[0] seems... interesting. Here's the first paragraph: > Anyone who fills out a tax form knows how harmful the U.S. tax code is today – punishing hard work, savings, and investment. American frustration with the tax code has prompted two decades of Washington, D.C. blue ribbon commissions and detailed plans to reform the code. These efforts have not changed the tremendous burden Americans face in complying with the U.S. tax code. If a tax code were designed to punish hard work, thrift, and investment, the current U.S. tax code could serve as a blueprint. Autosummarizer[1] summarizes the first paragraph as follows: > If a tax code were designed to punish hard work, thrift, and investment, the current U.S. tax code could serve as a blueprint. Good times, America. [0] https://www.greatagain.gov/policy/tax-reformeconomic-vision.html https://www.greatagain.gov/policy/tax-reformeconomic-vision.... [1] http://autosummarizer.com/index.php http://autosummarizer.com/index.php
- sandworm101 10y agoWell, it should soak up some of the more annoying dos traffic. That's a good thing.
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- alistproducer2 10y agoI've already started applying for citizenship in my mother's country. Just in case.
- MrZongle2 10y agoJust in case...what?
- alistproducer2 10y agoIn case I feel like it's time to get out of the country.
- MrZongle2 10y agoAnd I think that is certainly your right. Families who saw what was happening in Germany in the 1930s and decided to leave were likely criticized at the time by those who stayed; in hindsight, this was a smart move. Conversely, if somebody moved out of the US because Reagan was elected...well, that decision probably looks a bit silly now. I have no more gift of foresight than anybody else here, so I can't say if such a move now would be right or wrong. But I am left wondering what facts would lead to such a decision today.
- danschumann 10y agoThis was on the front page then disappeared. BIAS JOURNALISM AT HN?
- Zikes 10y agoI'm almost certain it was mass flagged and removed automatically.
- ggregoire 10y agoMost likely it triggered the flame war detector. (moderator comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12792030 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12792030) Otherwise, it would have a "[flagged]" in its title.
- ing33k 10y agoLooks like a lot of members are flagging this thread
- outworlder 10y agoNow that it's finally over and people won't be able to push for their preferred candidate, can someone shed light on what the email ruckus was all about? Sure, personal server was used, etc. However, this is a community of tech literate people. We know that email is not and cannot be a secure medium. The only ways I can think of to transmit secure email messages is by making the medium irrelevant (encryption), or by using something else (ie. private 'secure' email-like mechanism). Had the emails been encrypted, it wouldn't matter if they were stored on top of the hollywood sign. So what gives? Does that mean that the US transfers classified information through totally insecure channels?
- cobbzilla 10y agofrom the conspiracy theorist POV, the suspicion was a pay-to-play Department of State, where donations to the Clinton Foundation were used to buy favors with the government. There were many large Middle Eastern donors to the foundation at a time when we made some of our largest arms deals to authoritarian governments there.
- ryanx435 10y agoGovernment emails are required to go through official government servers for a multitude of reasons, one of which is transparency of government and the ability to fulfil FOIA requests. Encryption doesn't solve the problem because the problem is that she was breaking the law and attempting to hide information from the American people
- snowwrestler 10y agoTo answer your specific question, the federal government deals with the same security vs. convenience dilemma that everyone else does. There are classified communications systems but they have fewer client devices and are harder to use. Quite a few of the emails in Clinton's inbox that contained classified information were drafted by other people in other agencies (including CIA, NSA, etc) who either did not realize that a particular piece of info was classified, or who wanted to get it to her quickly through the most convenient medium--they did a risk/reward calculation and hit send. The other thing to know about classified information is that it does not get unclassified just because it's public. So if I email you a NYTimes article about a classified drone strike program, you now have classified info in your inbox. Again, that explains some of the emails she had in her inbox--forwarding news stories around. Finally, the amount of classified information is staggering and detailed. Like everyone knows that the government flies U2 planes for surveillance, but their maximum altitude and endurance might be classified. So it's possible to have an email that is mostly fine but includes a few classified details. This complexity is why it has taken so long to review and release all her emails. Every single one has to be reviewed by relevant experts. In short, people hear "classified information" and immediately think of something like the "NOC list" of covert agents from Mission Impossible. The reality is that immense amounts of information are classified, and it's easy to screw up. There is a reason the FBI said that no prosecutor would bother prosecuting Clinton.
- bjschnei 10y agoThe hover cursor on this page is killing me. Bad cyber, so sad.
- eloy 10y agoHow did Trump even got this domain before he was President-elect? .gov is limited for only the US government, nothing else. Before the elections, Trump was not part of the government. But the certificate dates from 1 November 2017.
- sparky_ 10y agoSo you can submit ideas here I see. I submitted a plea to embrace climate change from an economic standpoint - "renewable energy technologies will be in high demand, and there is a huge opportunity for whichever nation is first to market." Perhaps the prospect of making zillions in solar panel sales can give them pause.
- Zikes 10y agoWhat's that headline right now? Tesla had more revenue than all of American oil/coal combined? Edit: Found it: https://electrek.co/2016/11/10/tesla-made-more-money-last-quarter-than-the-entire-us-oil-industry-made-last-year/ https://electrek.co/2016/11/10/tesla-made-more-money-last-qu...
- sparky_ 10y agoThis is the sort of argument that has a chance of succeeding with the republican majority.
- synicalx 10y agoI think you mean a "YUGE opportunity"
- snowwrestler 10y agoFor those wondering how this got done so quickly, both campaigns had transition offices in DC--funded in part with federal dollars--that got started months ago. The modern presidency is so complex that a transition can no longer be accomplished effectively in the time between November 8 and January 20. So a bipartisan project created the concept of multiple transition offices that get government funds to operate. Obviously the Clinton transition office is in the process of winding now right now, and the Trump office is expanding rapidly.
- Bartweiss 10y agoI wonder if anything is done with the losing candidate's transition office. Like, do they put together a two-page list of the most important, nonpartisan conclusions they reached and hand it off to their counterparts? I'd like to think so, but I'm hardly optimistic.
- boyaka 10y agoSounds like this just ensures lots of jobs in govtech.
- jotadambalakiri 10y agoThe 'Download video' option under 'My Dad' hit me hard
- azilnik 10y agoThat favicon of the White House in front of a red background seems to send a wrong message scaled down to that degree. I hope they fix up some of the design work.
- Zikes 10y agoFor everyone flagging this and trying to pretend it doesn't exist, that's a pretty significant part of why Trump won in the first place. Engage with it. Understand it. Stop attacking ad hominem and learn to find common ground. You don't have to like it, or even remotely agree on all points, but if you want to see any of the progress you're looking for over the next 4 years then you have to get involved.