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Good luck with that. Reddit's failed at it. Twitter's failed at it. It's almost always bundled with some sort of hate speech or political rhetoric that triggers

by Zikes 10y ago

Good luck with that. Reddit's failed at it. Twitter's failed at it. It's almost always bundled with some sort of hate speech or political rhetoric that triggers swaths of people when they feel like they're being silenced. There probably is no right way to do it.

duaneb 10y ago
I tend to agree—I think that the more we get upset by these sorts of behaviors, the more it encourages them. "Don't feed the trolls" is really the only thing that works, and it's a pretty miserable experience to have nothing you can do about harassment. Which isn't to say I disapprove of reddit, twitter et al removing hate speech; just that it's a very late and reactive solution to a problem that seems inherent in social media. Really, all we can do is improve filtering, and facebook seems almost ideologically opposed to increasing user control over the content they see. So I don't see facebook being a pleasant place to visit in the near future.
- piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago
  > hate speech On many subreddits, being in opposition to illegal massive immigration is being considered as a 'hate speech' and is a reason for ban.
  - duaneb 10y ago
    Err, citation needed. Preferably by someone employed by Reddit. If it's just the subreddit.... I don't know what to tell you beyond "find better ones".
    - piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago
      I was talking about /r/europe for example. > find better ones It's not that simple, having in mind that: 1. Current moderators clique holds the most adequate name for pan-Europe subreddit. 2. Everyone registering account from Europe-located IP address is being automatically subscribed to this subreddit.
dredmorbius 10y ago
I'm willing to allow that approaches to collaborative filtering fail at some level. I've tried a few myself that failed. Drawing expert opinion into the equation, and looking at how concepts spread, and who spreads them, might be useful.

by Zikes 10y ago

duaneb 10y ago

I tend to agree—I think that the more we get upset by these sorts of behaviors, the more it encourages them. "Don't feed the trolls" is really the only thing that works, and it's a pretty miserable experience to have nothing you can do about harassment. Which isn't to say I disapprove of reddit, twitter et al removing hate speech; just that it's a very late and reactive solution to a problem that seems inherent in social media. Really, all we can do is improve filtering, and facebook seems almost ideologically opposed to increasing user control over the content they see. So I don't see facebook being a pleasant place to visit in the near future.

piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago
> hate speech On many subreddits, being in opposition to illegal massive immigration is being considered as a 'hate speech' and is a reason for ban.
- duaneb 10y ago
  Err, citation needed. Preferably by someone employed by Reddit. If it's just the subreddit.... I don't know what to tell you beyond "find better ones".
  - piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago
    I was talking about /r/europe for example. > find better ones It's not that simple, having in mind that: 1. Current moderators clique holds the most adequate name for pan-Europe subreddit. 2. Everyone registering account from Europe-located IP address is being automatically subscribed to this subreddit.

dredmorbius 10y ago

I'm willing to allow that approaches to collaborative filtering fail at some level. I've tried a few myself that failed. Drawing expert opinion into the equation, and looking at how concepts spread, and who spreads them, might be useful.