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IMHO Go is a good choice for lots of system daemons and commandline tools. If networking is involved it shines even more. > 7 years without proper penetration

IMHO Go is a good choice for lots of system daemons and commandline tools. If networking is involved it shines even more. > 7 years without proper penetration into the GUI market seems odd, unless it is aimed elsewhere? You could apply this criticism to nearly all languags, as there are currently only very few that are used for native GUIs: C and C++, because the operating systems and native toolkits are written in that, C# for Windows (Winforms and WPF) and Java for cross-plattform GUI applications.

aikah 10y ago
Python has strong support for Gnome libraries, therefore GTK+ through GObject introspection. Go type system is too rigid to allow a tool like GObject introspection to interact with Go code. So no, this criticism doesn't apply to nearly all languages.
- Matthias247 10y ago
  Might be true that Python has some advantages in wrapping GTK+ or even QT. But the parent mentioned "proper penetration of the GUI market". And I think also for Python the amount of GUI applications is quite low.
dilap 10y ago
objc is a huge one! most iphone apps. increasingly, swift too. there's some python stuff. the original bittorrent client. i did a couple apps using PyQt and python -- not an experience i would want to repeat, though.
- Matthias247 10y ago
  Yeah, objc is. However mentally I counted that towards the OS languages and C family languages. Swift also belongs to the OS (first class langauge) category, although it's certainly not in the C family. For others maybe Delphi was succesful in the GUI domain. But in the last years it was certainly not often mentioned. For GTK there's also Vala, which was probably even designed to be used for GUIs.
  - dilap 10y ago
    Oh yes, it's very much a an "os language". But an important one to include in your list, I felt! Objc is certainly C-derived, but it's also just as much smalltalk-derived. Definitely a very different beast than plain C (more so even than C++, I would say).

aikah 10y ago

Python has strong support for Gnome libraries, therefore GTK+ through GObject introspection. Go type system is too rigid to allow a tool like GObject introspection to interact with Go code. So no, this criticism doesn't apply to nearly all languages.

Matthias247 10y ago
Might be true that Python has some advantages in wrapping GTK+ or even QT. But the parent mentioned "proper penetration of the GUI market". And I think also for Python the amount of GUI applications is quite low.

dilap 10y ago

objc is a huge one! most iphone apps. increasingly, swift too. there's some python stuff. the original bittorrent client. i did a couple apps using PyQt and python -- not an experience i would want to repeat, though.

Matthias247 10y ago
Yeah, objc is. However mentally I counted that towards the OS languages and C family languages. Swift also belongs to the OS (first class langauge) category, although it's certainly not in the C family. For others maybe Delphi was succesful in the GUI domain. But in the last years it was certainly not often mentioned. For GTK there's also Vala, which was probably even designed to be used for GUIs.
- dilap 10y ago
  Oh yes, it's very much a an "os language". But an important one to include in your list, I felt! Objc is certainly C-derived, but it's also just as much smalltalk-derived. Definitely a very different beast than plain C (more so even than C++, I would say).