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I don't find that term offensive at all. To me it it means you believe in something and you're going to stand up for it.

zzalpha 10y ago
Please. Let's all admit SJW has a clear, negative connotation. I mean, geez, it has a Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice_warrior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice_warrior is a pejorative term for an individual promoting socially progressive views,[1] including feminism,[1][2] civil rights,[1] multiculturalism,[1] and identity politics. Are you really going to claim that you weren't aware of this when you threw that term out there?
- Nadya 10y ago
  >Let's all admit SJW has a clear, negative connotation. I mean, geez, it has a Wikipedia page: Many of them also own up to the term and use it to refer to themselves in a positive manner, even placing it in their Twitter bio's next to a link to their Patreon. Anyone who actually spends any amount of time in the political sphere where SJW run rampant is aware of this. Someone like myself uses it with the full negative connotation implied, because every SJW I know is a self-centered narcissist. But go ask the Twittersphere SJW's if they identify as a SJW and many will say yes. They see nothing wrong with it at all, after all they're in the right. They claim the moral high ground so how could being a SJW be a bad thing? "Oh, you're calling me a not-racist, not-sexist, not-misogynist? How is that a bad thing again?" Anyone who is distanced from that political sphere but might know some college-aged SJW crowd could easily see and use it as a "positive phrase".
  - 75j 10y ago
    > Anyone who actually spends any amount of time in the political sphere where SJW run rampant is aware of this. I have been reading up on politics or engaged in political discussion online for maybe ~4 hours daily for the past two years. I have never seen "SJW" used non-pejoratively, and I've never seen anyone own the term and apply it to themselves. Not saying you're wrong, but it's not nearly as common as you're pretending.
    - Nadya 10y ago
      When I have access to my bookmarks later today, I have no problem providing countless prominent individuals in the "SJW Sphere" to prove my point that they use it positively and someone less engaged could easily see it as a positive term. >I have been reading up on politics or engaged in political discussion online for maybe ~4 hours daily for the past two years. The exact opposite of not being politically engaged and having the few times you've seen the term be in a positive usage... I've been actively against SJW's and every niche they try to get their grimy paws on for the past four to five years. Almost all of my political engagement has been contrary to SJW talking points - not because of what they argue for, but because of how they go about it. I use it negatively and have no issue with saying I do. I'm around crowds that exclusively only use it negatively. I also see it used positively, or at least tongue-in-cheek all the time. If someone uses the term and claims they did not mean to use it with negative connotations - I believe their intentions. I'm not pretending it is common. I'm declaring it can be, is used, was used, and has been used positively and neutrally and that people still do so. Prior to #GamerGate turning it into a slur the Wikipedia article even mentions it was a positive thing. It's very easy to not be actively aware of #GamerGate or TiA (TumblrInAction) and outside of those two bubbles you're not very likely to even run into the term "SJW". sickbeard denies the intent and claims to have viewed it in a neutral, if even slightly positive, light. Arguing otherwise is dishonest and viewing things from your own viewpoint. Projecting intention where there is none. Ironically that is something people are sick of SJW's doing. And yes, I used it negatively there.
      - 75j 10y ago
        > The exact opposite of not being politically engaged and having the few times you've seen the term be in a positive usage... Not sure what you're trying to say here. I honestly don't care that much about any of this. I know that there are people like you who hate "SJWs", but really what a weird thing to get riled up over. My political engagement has been entirely contrary to the war-profiteering, plundering, pro-corporate elites that run the world, but by all means you keep going after those evil college kids and feminists!
        10y ago
- sickbeard 10y ago
  what's wrong with "promoting socially progressive views,[1] including feminism,[1][2] civil rights,[1] multiculturalism,[1] and identity politics" ??? just because someone uses it pejoratively doesn't make it untrue

zzalpha 10y ago

Please. Let's all admit SJW has a clear, negative connotation. I mean, geez, it has a Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice_warrior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice_warrior is a pejorative term for an individual promoting socially progressive views,[1] including feminism,[1][2] civil rights,[1] multiculturalism,[1] and identity politics. Are you really going to claim that you weren't aware of this when you threw that term out there?

Nadya 10y ago
>Let's all admit SJW has a clear, negative connotation. I mean, geez, it has a Wikipedia page: Many of them also own up to the term and use it to refer to themselves in a positive manner, even placing it in their Twitter bio's next to a link to their Patreon. Anyone who actually spends any amount of time in the political sphere where SJW run rampant is aware of this. Someone like myself uses it with the full negative connotation implied, because every SJW I know is a self-centered narcissist. But go ask the Twittersphere SJW's if they identify as a SJW and many will say yes. They see nothing wrong with it at all, after all they're in the right. They claim the moral high ground so how could being a SJW be a bad thing? "Oh, you're calling me a not-racist, not-sexist, not-misogynist? How is that a bad thing again?" Anyone who is distanced from that political sphere but might know some college-aged SJW crowd could easily see and use it as a "positive phrase".
- 75j 10y ago
  > Anyone who actually spends any amount of time in the political sphere where SJW run rampant is aware of this. I have been reading up on politics or engaged in political discussion online for maybe ~4 hours daily for the past two years. I have never seen "SJW" used non-pejoratively, and I've never seen anyone own the term and apply it to themselves. Not saying you're wrong, but it's not nearly as common as you're pretending.
  - Nadya 10y ago
    When I have access to my bookmarks later today, I have no problem providing countless prominent individuals in the "SJW Sphere" to prove my point that they use it positively and someone less engaged could easily see it as a positive term. >I have been reading up on politics or engaged in political discussion online for maybe ~4 hours daily for the past two years. The exact opposite of not being politically engaged and having the few times you've seen the term be in a positive usage... I've been actively against SJW's and every niche they try to get their grimy paws on for the past four to five years. Almost all of my political engagement has been contrary to SJW talking points - not because of what they argue for, but because of how they go about it. I use it negatively and have no issue with saying I do. I'm around crowds that exclusively only use it negatively. I also see it used positively, or at least tongue-in-cheek all the time. If someone uses the term and claims they did not mean to use it with negative connotations - I believe their intentions. I'm not pretending it is common. I'm declaring it can be, is used, was used, and has been used positively and neutrally and that people still do so. Prior to #GamerGate turning it into a slur the Wikipedia article even mentions it was a positive thing. It's very easy to not be actively aware of #GamerGate or TiA (TumblrInAction) and outside of those two bubbles you're not very likely to even run into the term "SJW". sickbeard denies the intent and claims to have viewed it in a neutral, if even slightly positive, light. Arguing otherwise is dishonest and viewing things from your own viewpoint. Projecting intention where there is none. Ironically that is something people are sick of SJW's doing. And yes, I used it negatively there.
    - 75j 10y ago
      > The exact opposite of not being politically engaged and having the few times you've seen the term be in a positive usage... Not sure what you're trying to say here. I honestly don't care that much about any of this. I know that there are people like you who hate "SJWs", but really what a weird thing to get riled up over. My political engagement has been entirely contrary to the war-profiteering, plundering, pro-corporate elites that run the world, but by all means you keep going after those evil college kids and feminists!
      - 10y ago
sickbeard 10y ago
what's wrong with "promoting socially progressive views,[1] including feminism,[1][2] civil rights,[1] multiculturalism,[1] and identity politics" ??? just because someone uses it pejoratively doesn't make it untrue