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If I have proposition to kill someone else for money, e.g. $10M, for exchange of 7 years in comfortable Dutch prison, I will grab the money.

by lisivka 10y ago

eric_the_read 10y ago
If the only reason you haven't murdered anyone is that you haven't been offered enough money, I'm genuinely concerned.
- lisivka 10y ago
  It's just example. People are killing people for way smaller reasons. My price is very high, isn't? How much people live in Dutch? If Russians will send one killer for every key men in country, country will be their in just 12 years, while they lose nothing, because Dutch prison is much much more comfortable than a flat in Rostov. I see that in Ukraine right now.
ordinary 10y ago
Unlike in most other European countries, Dutch law allows for life imprisonment without parole, from which only a royal pardon can save you. Since 1970, 43 people have been convicted, 2 of whom were eventually pardoned, both because of terminal illness. A quick glance through the recent list of convictions[1] shows that most life sentences were imposed in cases of multiple homicide, homicide for financial gain and homicide related to organized crime. In addition, convicts may be involuntarily committed when their sentence is over (and often before). This is aimed at rehabilitation, but can be extended indefinitely. [1] https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_tot_levenslang_veroordeelden_in_Nederland#Na_1970 https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_tot_levenslang_veroo... (in Dutch)
- lisivka 10y ago
  OK, thank you. So I will not tell anybody that I did that by request of someone else, then serve 12 years and will be free and with money, unless my mother will come in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram%C3%B3n_Mercader https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram%C3%B3n_Mercader (in English).
- Scarblac 10y ago
  And I think those involuntarily committed ("tbs") people, many of whom have effectively a life sentence, are not in the statistics in the article.

If I have proposition to kill someone else for money, e.g. $10M, for exchange of 7 years in comfortable Dutch prison, I will grab the money.

by lisivka 10y ago

If I have proposition to kill someone else for money, e.g. $10M, for exchange of 7 years in comfortable Dutch prison, I will grab the money.

eric_the_read 10y ago

If the only reason you haven't murdered anyone is that you haven't been offered enough money, I'm genuinely concerned.

lisivka 10y ago
It's just example. People are killing people for way smaller reasons. My price is very high, isn't? How much people live in Dutch? If Russians will send one killer for every key men in country, country will be their in just 12 years, while they lose nothing, because Dutch prison is much much more comfortable than a flat in Rostov. I see that in Ukraine right now.

ordinary 10y ago

Unlike in most other European countries, Dutch law allows for life imprisonment without parole, from which only a royal pardon can save you. Since 1970, 43 people have been convicted, 2 of whom were eventually pardoned, both because of terminal illness. A quick glance through the recent list of convictions[1] shows that most life sentences were imposed in cases of multiple homicide, homicide for financial gain and homicide related to organized crime. In addition, convicts may be involuntarily committed when their sentence is over (and often before). This is aimed at rehabilitation, but can be extended indefinitely. [1] https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_tot_levenslang_veroordeelden_in_Nederland#Na_1970 https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_tot_levenslang_veroo... (in Dutch)

lisivka 10y ago
OK, thank you. So I will not tell anybody that I did that by request of someone else, then serve 12 years and will be free and with money, unless my mother will come in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram%C3%B3n_Mercader https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram%C3%B3n_Mercader (in English).
Scarblac 10y ago
And I think those involuntarily committed ("tbs") people, many of whom have effectively a life sentence, are not in the statistics in the article.