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> Not too mention that Maggie Haberman and Mark Liebovich (and probably a few others too that I'm not aware of) can be found in the Podesta emails sending over
by mtbcoder 10y ago
> Not too mention that Maggie Haberman and Mark Liebovich (and probably a few others too that I'm not aware of) can be found in the Podesta emails sending over their articles to the Clinton campaign for review, prior to publication.
Can you reference the source for this? I ask because much of what I've seen between what WikiLeaks tweets and what's actually contained within the email messages is severely taken out of context. (e.g. not understanding what news embargos are [1]) The New York Times were also the ones who originally broke the story of the private email server.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_embargo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_embargo
- throwaway98764 10y agoCryptographically verified, by the way: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4213 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4213
- mtbcoder 10y agoThank you, here is also the response by Leibovich: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/magazine/anatomy-of-a-media-conspiracy.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/magazine/anatomy-of-a-medi...
- 75j 10y agoOne example from Leibovich: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4213 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4213 And one of Haberman's stories being sent to Podesta: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/51561 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/51561 Here's a Clinton campaign strategy document that mentions Haberman and how she has "teed up many stories for us before and [we] have never been disappointed": https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3125945-Story-Memo.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3125945-Story-Memo.h... Doing an advanced search on Wikileaks filtering by "nytdirect@nytimes.com" in the sender field, you'll see that the first drafts of nearly 50 different articles were sent to John Podesta: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/?q=&mfrom=nytdirect%40nytimes.com&mto=&title=¬itle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=¬o=&count=50&sort=6#searchresult https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/?q=&mfrom=nytdirect%40n...
- 75j 10y agoOne more I found just now concerning Leibovich: "Here is the quote that Leibovich is intending to use from your conversation with him unless we see a problem. I don’t." https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/33945 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/33945
- mtbcoder 10y agoThank you, I believe Leibovich's response provides the relevant context though.
- 75j 10y agoNYT links are all paywalled for me, but I can't envision any possible excuse for what he did. I understand that "access" is a tricky problem and involves some moral grey area, but sending articles ahead of time for revision and "vetoing", and asking for permission to use a quote... those both strike me as a clear failure in journalistic ethics.
- hga 10y agoas a clear failure in journalistic ethics To quote Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds, "Just think of the media as Democrat operatives with bylines, and it all makes sense."
- maxerickson 10y agoSean Hannity, Democrat operative.
- maxerickson 10y agoSo should journalists simply never agree to have conversations off the record? I think there are big problems with the way access and coverage are mixed up together and traded on, but I'm pretty comfortable with a journalist agreeing not to publish remarks made during a conversation and then later asking to publish some of them.