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Except of course Trump has no ability to revitalize any thing. Considering that the US economy has been on a steady recovery during the Obama years Republicans

Except of course Trump has no ability to revitalize any thing. Considering that the US economy has been on a steady recovery during the Obama years Republicans will as usually just magically declare their election is the cause. Trump is a con man so any attempt to attribute his election to some sort of optimistic view of "revitalization" is sheer nonsense. The combination of the normal Republican elite voting, the ill informed Hillary fearful and the general "White folks that have the chance to reverse their self-viewed powerlessness" was the combination that defeated Clinton. As usually people voted against their own logical needs in a US society because showing their power was more important than electing someone with any experience in complex government operations.

danso 10y ago
But the thing is people believed in it. And the media, as Thiel pointed out in a speech, thought that people would dismiss Trump on literal grounds, as in, they don't require him to literally build a wall. But they know that he's prioritized immigration (and theoretically, protecting American jobs) in a way that Clinton and none of the other Republican candidates did. (Whether he imposes trade tariffs will be interesting though...) The other part of it is that the ruling party rarely holds on for more than 2 terms in the presidency. If you feel the economy is going humdrum, you might desire the prospect of change that comes with a different party.
DefaultUserHN 10y ago
>Except of course Trump has no ability to revitalize any thing. >Trump is a con man... We don't know that yet. We have to wait and see. What happens every time we vote for a politician is that we vote in hope that they will be able to accomplish what they set out to do. Hillary supporters place their hope in Hillary because they don't believe Trump can do what he said he will do. And Trump supporters place their hope in Trump because they don't believe Hillary can do what she said she'll do. We just won't know who can actually accomplish their goals until 4 years later. >Considering that the US economy has been on a steady recovery during the Obama... This is irrelevant for Trump supporters who lost their jobs, their livelihood. Obama (campaigning for Hillary), kept telling them the economy is good. "Well, if the economy is so good, then where did all the jobs go?" It's a bad argument, and can not win any Trump supporter over. Because at the end of the day, they still have no jobs, and they want jobs, and Trump is the only one talking about bringing jobs back, creating jobs, making the economy better, etc.

danso 10y ago

But the thing is people believed in it. And the media, as Thiel pointed out in a speech, thought that people would dismiss Trump on literal grounds, as in, they don't require him to literally build a wall. But they know that he's prioritized immigration (and theoretically, protecting American jobs) in a way that Clinton and none of the other Republican candidates did. (Whether he imposes trade tariffs will be interesting though...) The other part of it is that the ruling party rarely holds on for more than 2 terms in the presidency. If you feel the economy is going humdrum, you might desire the prospect of change that comes with a different party.

DefaultUserHN 10y ago

>Except of course Trump has no ability to revitalize any thing. >Trump is a con man... We don't know that yet. We have to wait and see. What happens every time we vote for a politician is that we vote in hope that they will be able to accomplish what they set out to do. Hillary supporters place their hope in Hillary because they don't believe Trump can do what he said he will do. And Trump supporters place their hope in Trump because they don't believe Hillary can do what she said she'll do. We just won't know who can actually accomplish their goals until 4 years later. >Considering that the US economy has been on a steady recovery during the Obama... This is irrelevant for Trump supporters who lost their jobs, their livelihood. Obama (campaigning for Hillary), kept telling them the economy is good. "Well, if the economy is so good, then where did all the jobs go?" It's a bad argument, and can not win any Trump supporter over. Because at the end of the day, they still have no jobs, and they want jobs, and Trump is the only one talking about bringing jobs back, creating jobs, making the economy better, etc.