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One thing that I got from my time as a scout is to live and work with people I can't stand, which is something that has helped me a lot since that time.

moyta 10y ago
Definitely, even if you hate them you have to work with the rest of your patrol and make your situation as good as possible, whether that be by stringing up tarps, building tripods to hang your stuff on, making an axe yard, or caring for Mike who is having yet another asthma attack/seizure/hypothermia/etc. I was lucky enough to be in a large, non-religous troop that happened to have a bus & be very well organized (4 Junior Assistant Scoutmasters!), definitely a great experience, only wish I had gotten further than life.
- gonzo 10y ago
  As a former SM, the goals (Aims) of Scouting do not include getting young men to the rank of Eagle. The aims of Scouting are: Character development Citizenship training Physical fitness The methods used to achieve these aims: http://www.nesa.org/methods.html http://www.nesa.org/methods.html Learning to live with others is one of the things achieved via the patrol method. This tends to develop citizenship.
  - Angostura 10y ago
    Bear in mind that this was a study of those participating in U.K. Scouting which is different in many respects to the American organisation
    - timthorn 10y ago
      And UK Scouting was very different 40 years ago to how it is today - relevant as this study looks at outcomes for those born in 1958
joakes 10y ago
Not to take away from scouts, but I feel like this study could apply to any group that a child decides to stick with and learn from. Sports teach resilience and the like, as well does joining a music group. My club soccer team during high school was unbeaten for most seasons and ended up state champions, but most of us didn't hangout afterwards or even like each other.
- gaius 10y ago
  Not really, playing sports doesn't give the "immersive" experience of spending several days at a time in the back country, sports kit doesn't have the meaning attached to it that a uniform does, etc etc. I was a cadet rather than a scout but even decades later it still shapes my thinking.
  - douche 10y ago
    I dunno, I dumped the Boy Scouts as soon as I started playing sports. It didn't help that there were legitimate, registered sex offenders involved in the leadership of the local troop. But really it was that it was just easier and more fun to just go out in the back country and do stuff on your own than to put up with all the red tape and bureaucracy and fiddle-frigging around that Scouts entailed.
- throwaway1892 10y ago
  I don't disagree, but for me, since I did not practice team sports, so I got this from my time with scouts. Still, it's a bit different for the scouts since you will live for extended periods of time together, like 10+ days for the summer outing.
- chris_wot 10y ago
  Yeah, except if you are being bullied and nobody steps in to stop it.
  - lmm 10y ago
    Are you saying that doesn't happen in Scouts? Because that happens in Scouts.

moyta 10y ago

Definitely, even if you hate them you have to work with the rest of your patrol and make your situation as good as possible, whether that be by stringing up tarps, building tripods to hang your stuff on, making an axe yard, or caring for Mike who is having yet another asthma attack/seizure/hypothermia/etc. I was lucky enough to be in a large, non-religous troop that happened to have a bus & be very well organized (4 Junior Assistant Scoutmasters!), definitely a great experience, only wish I had gotten further than life.

gonzo 10y ago
As a former SM, the goals (Aims) of Scouting do not include getting young men to the rank of Eagle. The aims of Scouting are: Character development Citizenship training Physical fitness The methods used to achieve these aims: http://www.nesa.org/methods.html http://www.nesa.org/methods.html Learning to live with others is one of the things achieved via the patrol method. This tends to develop citizenship.
- Angostura 10y ago
  Bear in mind that this was a study of those participating in U.K. Scouting which is different in many respects to the American organisation
  - timthorn 10y ago
    And UK Scouting was very different 40 years ago to how it is today - relevant as this study looks at outcomes for those born in 1958

joakes 10y ago

Not to take away from scouts, but I feel like this study could apply to any group that a child decides to stick with and learn from. Sports teach resilience and the like, as well does joining a music group. My club soccer team during high school was unbeaten for most seasons and ended up state champions, but most of us didn't hangout afterwards or even like each other.

gaius 10y ago
Not really, playing sports doesn't give the "immersive" experience of spending several days at a time in the back country, sports kit doesn't have the meaning attached to it that a uniform does, etc etc. I was a cadet rather than a scout but even decades later it still shapes my thinking.
- douche 10y ago
  I dunno, I dumped the Boy Scouts as soon as I started playing sports. It didn't help that there were legitimate, registered sex offenders involved in the leadership of the local troop. But really it was that it was just easier and more fun to just go out in the back country and do stuff on your own than to put up with all the red tape and bureaucracy and fiddle-frigging around that Scouts entailed.
throwaway1892 10y ago
I don't disagree, but for me, since I did not practice team sports, so I got this from my time with scouts. Still, it's a bit different for the scouts since you will live for extended periods of time together, like 10+ days for the summer outing.
chris_wot 10y ago
Yeah, except if you are being bullied and nobody steps in to stop it.
- lmm 10y ago
  Are you saying that doesn't happen in Scouts? Because that happens in Scouts.