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So a hard drive, one with an onboard USB bridge no less, and a raspberry Pi. USB performance on Pi is garbage, and you're sharing your storage I/O with the net

So a hard drive, one with an onboard USB bridge no less, and a raspberry Pi. USB performance on Pi is garbage, and you're sharing your storage I/O with the network I/O since they're both USB prehiperals. This is a terrible idea.

ZenoArrow 10y ago
It's not a terrible idea in general, I personally think it's potentially a great idea, but like you I do think the Raspberry Pi was a poor choice for this use-case. Perhaps in the next revision they'll base it around something better suited, such as the ESPRESSOBin: http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/09/23/marvell-espressobin-board-with-gigabit-ethernet-sata-pcie-and-usb-3-0-to-launch-for-39-and-up-crowdfunding/ http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/09/23/marvell-espressobin-b...
- tdkl 10y ago
  Specs are impressive but > ESPRESSOBin will be launched on Kickstarter in the next few days. sigh
  - voltagex_ 10y ago
    It's almost done I think. I have high hopes for it Globalscale made great stuff with the Sheevaplug and Dreamplug.
  - ZenoArrow 10y ago
    The Kickstarter has already started, it's actually less than 24 hours away from finishing. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/874883570/marvell-espressobin-board https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/874883570/marvell-espre...
    - narrowrail 10y ago
      This looks like a great piece of HW with a Drobo mini attached. It could be a great daemon/cron/storage box with only one ethernet port, but w/ three it seems they are positioning to compete with the ERL3 from Ubiquiti which has a MIPS-based cpu from Brocade.
- jancborchardt 10y ago
  The Raspberry Pi is the obvious choice because it’s very widely available. :) Raspberry Pi 3 compatibility is coming with the next version. For Nextcloud itself people like to of course hate about it being in PHP just for the sake of it. But the simple fact is that it enables a lot of people to run it. And if we want a viable alternative, then that is paramount.
  - moyta 10y ago
    Eh, there are other SBCs that do much better at USB I/O that you can get 10k of, like the OrangePi Zero or the Opi PC. PHP is fine, everyone loves to hate on it but it makes the world turn.

ZenoArrow 10y ago

It's not a terrible idea in general, I personally think it's potentially a great idea, but like you I do think the Raspberry Pi was a poor choice for this use-case. Perhaps in the next revision they'll base it around something better suited, such as the ESPRESSOBin: http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/09/23/marvell-espressobin-board-with-gigabit-ethernet-sata-pcie-and-usb-3-0-to-launch-for-39-and-up-crowdfunding/ http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/09/23/marvell-espressobin-b...

tdkl 10y ago
Specs are impressive but > ESPRESSOBin will be launched on Kickstarter in the next few days. sigh
- voltagex_ 10y ago
  It's almost done I think. I have high hopes for it Globalscale made great stuff with the Sheevaplug and Dreamplug.
- ZenoArrow 10y ago
  The Kickstarter has already started, it's actually less than 24 hours away from finishing. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/874883570/marvell-espressobin-board https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/874883570/marvell-espre...
  - narrowrail 10y ago
    This looks like a great piece of HW with a Drobo mini attached. It could be a great daemon/cron/storage box with only one ethernet port, but w/ three it seems they are positioning to compete with the ERL3 from Ubiquiti which has a MIPS-based cpu from Brocade.
jancborchardt 10y ago
The Raspberry Pi is the obvious choice because it’s very widely available. :) Raspberry Pi 3 compatibility is coming with the next version. For Nextcloud itself people like to of course hate about it being in PHP just for the sake of it. But the simple fact is that it enables a lot of people to run it. And if we want a viable alternative, then that is paramount.
- moyta 10y ago
  Eh, there are other SBCs that do much better at USB I/O that you can get 10k of, like the OrangePi Zero or the Opi PC. PHP is fine, everyone loves to hate on it but it makes the world turn.