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> There's just no need to keep pretending that your opinion is the only rational choice when you've been repudiated so completely. You do realize that Clinton

by lingben 10y ago

> There's just no need to keep pretending that your opinion is the only rational choice when you've been repudiated so completely. You do realize that Clinton won the popular vote, right? the majority of Americans agree with her policies and voted for her. Trump won because of the arcane 18th century election structure unique to the US called an electoral college.

oldmanjay 10y ago
Ahh, is it time to cry about the electoral college again? I suppose if no one knew going in that it was the way things were done, I'd care. Since everyone knew, it's just the worst kind of monday-morning quarterbacking. The thorough repudiation is that Hillary Clinton was anointed the next president, anointed the "only" "sane" choice, and lost. It's a fact, no matter what tears people dredge up now. I say this with no love or support for Donald Trump, just open eyes in a process that most people enter willfully blind.
- kbenson 10y ago
  > Since everyone knew, it's just the worst kind of monday-morning quarterbacking. To be fair, it's not like this only gets brought up after the election. The last 3-6 months have been filled with people complaining about how our voting system works, different systems and their own problems, etc.
  - oldmanjay 10y ago
    Sure, that's totally fair. I don't even particularly like the electoral college system personally.
- lingben 10y ago
  this infographic shows just how razor thin the win was for Trump and how it was delivered via the electoral college: http://i.imgur.com/FZEjdCF.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FZEjdCF.jpg these are facts, one can decide to deride them in a childish attempt to obfuscate or wallow in ignorance or one can choose to objectively discuss them as they are
  - oldmanjay 10y ago
    Literally every presidential victory is delivered by the electoral college, as has been required by the US Constitution since long before Donald Trump was a dirty thought. What is to discuss? For that matter, what is being obfuscated?
coldtea 10y ago
>You do realize that Clinton won the popular vote, right? Just barely. So? Besides, nobody would have complained is she had won against the popular vote (which most pundits expected her to).
tedunangst 10y ago
> the majority of Americans agree with her policies and voted for her. No, not actually. Clinton was a lot closer to Trump's vote count than 50%.

by lingben 10y ago

oldmanjay 10y ago

Ahh, is it time to cry about the electoral college again? I suppose if no one knew going in that it was the way things were done, I'd care. Since everyone knew, it's just the worst kind of monday-morning quarterbacking. The thorough repudiation is that Hillary Clinton was anointed the next president, anointed the "only" "sane" choice, and lost. It's a fact, no matter what tears people dredge up now. I say this with no love or support for Donald Trump, just open eyes in a process that most people enter willfully blind.

kbenson 10y ago
> Since everyone knew, it's just the worst kind of monday-morning quarterbacking. To be fair, it's not like this only gets brought up after the election. The last 3-6 months have been filled with people complaining about how our voting system works, different systems and their own problems, etc.
- oldmanjay 10y ago
  Sure, that's totally fair. I don't even particularly like the electoral college system personally.
lingben 10y ago
this infographic shows just how razor thin the win was for Trump and how it was delivered via the electoral college: http://i.imgur.com/FZEjdCF.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FZEjdCF.jpg these are facts, one can decide to deride them in a childish attempt to obfuscate or wallow in ignorance or one can choose to objectively discuss them as they are
- oldmanjay 10y ago
  Literally every presidential victory is delivered by the electoral college, as has been required by the US Constitution since long before Donald Trump was a dirty thought. What is to discuss? For that matter, what is being obfuscated?

coldtea 10y ago

>You do realize that Clinton won the popular vote, right? Just barely. So? Besides, nobody would have complained is she had won against the popular vote (which most pundits expected her to).

tedunangst 10y ago

> the majority of Americans agree with her policies and voted for her. No, not actually. Clinton was a lot closer to Trump's vote count than 50%.