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I'll bet he doesn't know that the pubic sector shrank more under Obama than the previous presidents: "The public sector grew during Mr. Carter's term (up 1,304

by b_emery 10y ago

I'll bet he doesn't know that the pubic sector shrank more under Obama than the previous presidents: "The public sector grew during Mr. Carter's term (up 1,304,000), during Mr. Reagan's terms (up 1,414,000), during Mr. G.H.W. Bush's term (up 1,127,000), during Mr. Clinton's terms (up 1,934,000), and during Mr. G.W. Bush's terms (up 1,744,000 jobs). However the public sector has declined significantly since Mr. Obama took office (down 668,000 jobs). These job losses have mostly been at the state and local level, but more recently at the Federal level. This has been a significant drag on overall employment." [1] I'll be surprised if he gets half these things done in the next 4 yrs, though most are so vague it's not clear what 'done' would mean. [1] http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2014/10/public-and-private-sector-payroll-jobs.html http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2014/10/public-and-private...

thatfrenchguy 10y ago
Classic, you never make conservatives accountable for this kind of things.
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chrismeller 10y ago
Most of them being at the state and local level sounds more like the recession (and corresponding decrease in tax revenues the following years) catching up with state and local governments that actually have to stick to a budget. I'm not sure what the breakdown of "more recently at the Federal level" is, but it doesn't sound very pro-Obama in terms of your argument, particularly since Trump is talking about the Federal government.
- akiselev 10y ago
  Between a quarter to half of California's state budget comes from the federal government [1] and I'm guessing the same is true for most states. With that much money coming from the federal government, it's a muddy distinction. One of the primary argument against the federal government is the disconnect from local needs but most of the money is tied to federal mandates anyway (for example, the feds threatened road infrastructure funding to get the last few states to pass the 21 year alcohol age limit and DOE funding is tied to CORE). As a result the state/federal distinction isn't very precise. [1] https://ballotpedia.org/California_state_budget_and_finances https://ballotpedia.org/California_state_budget_and_finances
  - jchendy 10y ago
    > I'm guessing the same is true for most states. California is actually one of the lowest (42nd). The irony is that states where people vote for small government and lower taxes tend to receive a larger share per capita of federal money. https://ballotpedia.org/Federal_aid_to_state_budgets https://ballotpedia.org/Federal_aid_to_state_budgets
  - pbreit 10y ago
    "Between a quarter to half of California's state budget comes from the federal government" I think you're trying to make it seem higher than it is. Per your link, it's 25%.

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thatfrenchguy 10y ago

Classic, you never make conservatives accountable for this kind of things.

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chrismeller 10y ago

Most of them being at the state and local level sounds more like the recession (and corresponding decrease in tax revenues the following years) catching up with state and local governments that actually have to stick to a budget. I'm not sure what the breakdown of "more recently at the Federal level" is, but it doesn't sound very pro-Obama in terms of your argument, particularly since Trump is talking about the Federal government.

akiselev 10y ago
Between a quarter to half of California's state budget comes from the federal government [1] and I'm guessing the same is true for most states. With that much money coming from the federal government, it's a muddy distinction. One of the primary argument against the federal government is the disconnect from local needs but most of the money is tied to federal mandates anyway (for example, the feds threatened road infrastructure funding to get the last few states to pass the 21 year alcohol age limit and DOE funding is tied to CORE). As a result the state/federal distinction isn't very precise. [1] https://ballotpedia.org/California_state_budget_and_finances https://ballotpedia.org/California_state_budget_and_finances
- jchendy 10y ago
  > I'm guessing the same is true for most states. California is actually one of the lowest (42nd). The irony is that states where people vote for small government and lower taxes tend to receive a larger share per capita of federal money. https://ballotpedia.org/Federal_aid_to_state_budgets https://ballotpedia.org/Federal_aid_to_state_budgets
- pbreit 10y ago
  "Between a quarter to half of California's state budget comes from the federal government" I think you're trying to make it seem higher than it is. Per your link, it's 25%.