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Whatever you think about Trump or the policies in that document, it's clearer and more concise than anything I've seen from an elected official.
by jobu 10y ago
Whatever you think about Trump or the policies in that document, it's clearer and more concise than anything I've seen from an elected official.
- imajes 10y agoWhilst the concision is nice, it's pretty hand-wavy and without definition.
- PeCaN 10y agoHand-wavy? It has explicit action steps.
- imajes 10y agolets just take his first step- what kind of term limits? he could propose a term limit of 50 years, have achieved what he said he'd do, but make no meaningful change.
- MichaelBurge 10y agoThe answer is he's said 6 years(3 terms) in the House and 12 years(2 terms) in the Senate. The document is supposed to be an overview.
- orf 10y ago> The document is supposed to be an overview. I thought it was a contract
- kbenson 10y agoLow term limits are a double edged sword. On the one hand, you want to get new blood in the system. On the other, you don't want to throw away all the experience the representative has accumulated. how effective do you think someone really is in the first 2-4 years? A middle ground might be to make those the term limits, but require the representatives to not fill that position that 3rd or 4th term, but able to fill other positions and come back later. E.g. senate (6) -> senate (6) -> congress (2) -> congress (2) -> congress (2) -> senate (6) or even senate (6) -> senate (6) -> congress (2) -> senate (6) This would force representatives into other positions, while allowing them to capitalize on (and us to benefit from) their experience. We have a little of this already in advancement from congress to senate.
- tcoppi 10y agoYou also create an unaccountable permanent lame-duck class of politicians that can't be re-elected.
- kbenson 10y agoI'm not sure how it's any worse than current term limits in some states or the proposed term limits here? And I'm not saying they can't be elected, just not for the same position in perpetuity. If they were popular and want to run again for that position when next possible, so be it.
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- omouse 10y agolike the US Constitution and amendments?
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- djtriptych 10y agoTo which similar documents are you comparing it?
- boomzilla 10y agoThat's exactly the point. No one has ever offered such a document, so say what you want about Trump, he's taking a step towards transparency and accountability.
- djtriptych 10y agoHave you never heard of the Contract With America? This isn't really breaking new ground. Probably, you're just more engaged in this election and this is better covered.
- duaneb 10y agoThe contract with America is notable for being highly, highly unusual to broadcast your actual plans. Nobody did this before or after the contract with america until now.
- mikeyouse 10y agoLiterally every politician since Newt has published their for their first 100 days..
- djtriptych 10y agoNotable to who? you? Broadcasting your plans is called a "platform" and all major politicians do it.
- Retra 10y agoI don't see anyone claiming he is original, so what is the objection?
- yolesaber 10y agoHAHAHA come on dude, this is just a "first 100 days in office" plan, it's used by presidential candidates all the time. You can't be serious. Transparency? Accountability? Are you kidding me? This is the guy that brags about molesting women and won't even release his tax returns. Did you see who is going to be in his cabinet? Some of the slimiest and shameless career politicians of all time. Christie? Gingrich? When have these people been accountable ever?
- CPLX 10y ago"I will light our capital city on fire" is even more clear and concise. Perhaps you're optimizing for the wrong metric.
- thebigspacefuck 10y agoOh, You!
- shaftoe 10y agoThat would certainly go a long way to cutting bureacracy and restoring efficiency.
- mr_spothawk 10y agolet the snark fly! (seriously, though... you're probably right)
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- m3rc 10y agoConcise, yes. Believable, not so much
- hiou 10y agoI have a feeling you were not alive for the "Contract with America". On a side note this is one of the most naive things I have ever seen. I was a bit agnostic before, but wow this is literally handing Russia and China the keys to the global economy while thinking he is doing the opposite. Yikes, I really did not realize he was this under qualified.
- CountSessine 10y agothis is literally handing Russia and China the keys to the global economy Well, ok. Aside from the misuse of literally, that's certainly a metaphor I haven't heard being applied to this problem domain before...
- Figs 10y agoSo many people used 'literally' sarcastically and hyperbolically, that it has literally taken on the additional meaning in most dictionaries. :| http://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/misuse-of-literally http://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/misuse-of-liter...
- gnodar 10y agoI'm fine with words gaining additional definitions due to how they are popular used, but when a word is defined as one thing, and the exact opposite of that same thing, and both definitions can be equally valid within the context of the same sentence, then that's literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
- ixtli 10y agoWell I'm glad "clear and concise to your eye" is the rubric by which we're grading policy. Or maybe this isn't about the actual policy, you just want complex reality to be boiled down in a way that's easily digestible?
- ainot 10y agoCould you explain Obamacare? That would be cool. Thanks.
- mikeash 10y agoBuy health insurance if you don't get it from your employer. We'll help you pay for it if you don't make a ton of money.
- cglace 10y agoAfter I left my job I was making too little to receive a subsidy. You have to fall into the sweet spot to get a subsidy.
- mikeash 10y agoIs that because the federal law assumes an expansion of Medicaid, but your state didn't do it?
- BrandonM 10y agoMy parents in NC are in that exact situation. My dad is on disability and Medicaid, and insurance for my stepmom would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% of their income. She doesn't qualify for any assistance. Apparently, 377,000 other North Carolinians don't either. And there are 19 other states in a similar position. http://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/facts-and-features/state-by-state/how-aca-is-working-for-north-carolina/index.html http://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/facts-and-features/state-by-st...
- Delmania 10y ago
- cyberferret 10y agoAnd what are the repercussions if he does NOT achieve all these within the first 100 days? Will he step down? Come up with yet another plan? Contracts usually stipulate this as well. [Edit: And the downvote brigade strikes - for merely asking a genuine question. I guess this is an indication of the sort of thing that we can expect 'top down' from now on... Stay silent, never question, just obey the mandates... sigh] [Edit2: And now plenty of upvotes in support after my last edit, as well as useful replies - thank you for restoring my faith in democracy and the fact the people are willing to discuss and deliberate policies in a fair and rational manner.]
- sushid 10y ago100 day plans are nothing new. [0] It's a way of saying that the new administration will hit the ground running. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_hundred_days https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_hundred_days
- cyberferret 10y agoCool - they do similar things in this country too. Strangely I've never heard it worded as a 'contract' though. 'Plan' and 'Contract' have entirely different connotations.
- mikeash 10y agoOur politicians like to use stupid language that projects confidence beyond what any reasonable person would possess. For example, presidential candidates are constantly referred to as "the next president of the United States," as if the outcome of the election were somehow predetermined.
- torkable 10y ago/tinfoilhat implying its not
- joeclark77 10y ago
- natmaster 10y agoReally? Can you explain what this means then? "All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered “extreme vetting""
- facetube 10y agoThis shouldn't be downvoted. This is a critical question for a candidate who's pledged to expand religious discrimination and torture.
- facetube 10y agoThank you. It's time Americans took their duty to their country seriously. This is dangerous.
- sheepz 10y agocould you elaborate on the 'more torture' promise?
- mwfunk 10y agohttp://www.weeklystandard.com/trump-torture-works-ok-folks/article/2001124?custom_click=rss http://www.weeklystandard.com/trump-torture-works-ok-folks/a... A typical quote, and hardly the most disturbing thing he's said on the campaign trail: ""Torture works. OK, folks? You know, I have these guys -- "Torture doesn't work!" -- believe me, it works. And waterboarding is your minor form. Some people say it's not actually torture. Let's assume it is. But they asked me the question, What do you think of waterboarding? Absolutely fine. But we should go much stronger than waterboarding. That's the way I feel. They're chopping off heads. Believe me, we should go much stronger, because our country's in trouble. We're in danger. We have people that want to do really bad things! Remeber the power of weaponry. This isn't 100 years ago where we fight hand to hand combat. This is weapons that are so destructive -- so destructive -- that the world could end. We have to be very strong, we have to be very vigilant, we have to be very tough. Waterboarding is fine, but it's not nearly tough enough, OK?" From http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/06/politics/donald-trump-torture/ http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/06/politics/donald-trump-torture/: "...we are playing by rules, but they have no rules. It's very hard to win when that's the case," Trump said, adding that the United States' ban on waterboarding is a sign of weakness. "I think we've become very weak and ineffective. I think that's why we're not beating ISIS. It's that mentality," Trump said, adding that ISIS "must think we are a little bit on the weak side." He has backpedaled on the issue since then, but the fact that he said this stuff in the first place is disturbing enough.
- facetube 10y agoConcise, elegant, and wrong.
- slg 10y agoThis New Yorker cartoon seems to sum up your position. [1] I think it is pretty clear that the policies in the document are a more important to most of us than the clarity of their presentation. [1] - http://www.newyorker.com/cartoons/a20072 http://www.newyorker.com/cartoons/a20072