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It's not just Trump, the entire government is seeing red. The Republicans have control of the House, Senate, Presidency, and they will take control of the Judic

It's not just Trump, the entire government is seeing red. The Republicans have control of the House, Senate, Presidency, and they will take control of the Judicial branch as well. It's a conservative wet dream. In four years, we'll either have a 1-party system or an N-party system.

M_Grey 10y ago
Given the republican track record, in 4 years we'll be in a serious economic crisis, at least one war, and they'll be incredibly unpopular. Fortunately for them, they're well funded and well gerrymandered.
- germinalphrase 10y ago
  There will be redistricting in 2020.
  - daveguy 10y ago
    That will only make a difference if people are voting for Democrats for their state legislators and governors. The gerrymandering feeds itself. Also the wide land mass vs population centers split between Republican and Democratic bases doesn't help either.
s4vi0r 10y ago
>It's a conservative wet dream. Man, c'mon - why you gotta lump all conservatives in with these people? You can be a conservative without being an absolute anti-science/anti-intellectual/anti-environment/etc lunatic.
- oxide 10y ago
  you can be a liberal without being a bleeding-heart. but you can't vote liberal without voting in bleeding-hearts. it's the same for conservatives. sooner or later you're going to have to vote for an absolute anti-science/anti-intellectual/anti-environment/etc lunatic. when partisanship trumps all, almost none of it is so black and white. it becomes shades of grey.
  - Taek 10y ago
    That I think is a huge problem in our government. Why can't I vote for both smaller military and bigger NASA at the same time? Why when I decide climate change is super important do I also have to align with 15 other unrelated policies as well? Parties are all-or-nothing and that's painful. Because I find that no party represents me in more than like 20% of my political positions. I should be able to delegate better.
    - jlarocco 10y ago
      That's a self-imposed problem. There were 22 choices for president on my ballot. Until people wake up and start looking at the other 20 parties the current system is what we get.
      - ethbro 10y ago
        It's an electoral system problem. From a game theory standpoint there is no reason to ever vote third party. If we'd had a more nuanced system that allowed voting negative in addition to positive... pretty sure Johnson would have won.
        BrandonM 10y ago
        I'm hoping that Maine's Ranked Choice Voting[0] (instant runoff) is an answer to some of the problems inherent in our current winner-take-all system. It passed in Maine; hopefully it achieves its aims and spreads. [0] http://www.rcvmaine.com/ http://www.rcvmaine.com/
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      - spynxic 10y ago
        "If we'd had a more nuanced system that allowed voting negative in addition to positive..." We must prove that something which may be more complex than our current system is still just as fair (or more fair).
- losteric 10y ago
  Oh I totally get that conservative voters have a wide range of opinions... but they're still in control of the government. Socially liberal fiscal conservatives might not like this administration's social changes, but conservative fiscal legislation will get much less scrutiny since the Democrats have almost no power. Vice versa for the rare fiscally liberal social conservatives.
- coldpie 10y ago
  Being anti-science, anti-intellectual, and anti-environment are core planks in the Republican platform. You have to decide if your conservative values, whatever they are, are worth voting in favor of politicians who are anti-science, anti-intellectual, and anti-environment. This isn't something new we've discovered this election, either. Every vote for a Republican for the past 40 years has been a vote in this direction. If you voted Republican in the past 40 years, you are to blame for the current government. Nice work!
odbol_ 10y ago
Also, no forests or animals.
micaksica 10y ago
> In four years, we'll either have a 1-party system or an N-party system. This is the same thing I heard from Democrats in 2000 and 2004, and the same thing I heard from Republicans in 2008. It is unlikely to actually happen. People are too complacent, and a good chunk of America will be perfectly satiated by cheap prices at the pump.

M_Grey 10y ago

Given the republican track record, in 4 years we'll be in a serious economic crisis, at least one war, and they'll be incredibly unpopular. Fortunately for them, they're well funded and well gerrymandered.

germinalphrase 10y ago
There will be redistricting in 2020.
- daveguy 10y ago
  That will only make a difference if people are voting for Democrats for their state legislators and governors. The gerrymandering feeds itself. Also the wide land mass vs population centers split between Republican and Democratic bases doesn't help either.

s4vi0r 10y ago

>It's a conservative wet dream. Man, c'mon - why you gotta lump all conservatives in with these people? You can be a conservative without being an absolute anti-science/anti-intellectual/anti-environment/etc lunatic.

oxide 10y ago
you can be a liberal without being a bleeding-heart. but you can't vote liberal without voting in bleeding-hearts. it's the same for conservatives. sooner or later you're going to have to vote for an absolute anti-science/anti-intellectual/anti-environment/etc lunatic. when partisanship trumps all, almost none of it is so black and white. it becomes shades of grey.
- Taek 10y ago
  That I think is a huge problem in our government. Why can't I vote for both smaller military and bigger NASA at the same time? Why when I decide climate change is super important do I also have to align with 15 other unrelated policies as well? Parties are all-or-nothing and that's painful. Because I find that no party represents me in more than like 20% of my political positions. I should be able to delegate better.
  - jlarocco 10y ago
    That's a self-imposed problem. There were 22 choices for president on my ballot. Until people wake up and start looking at the other 20 parties the current system is what we get.
    - ethbro 10y ago
      It's an electoral system problem. From a game theory standpoint there is no reason to ever vote third party. If we'd had a more nuanced system that allowed voting negative in addition to positive... pretty sure Johnson would have won.
      - BrandonM 10y ago
        I'm hoping that Maine's Ranked Choice Voting[0] (instant runoff) is an answer to some of the problems inherent in our current winner-take-all system. It passed in Maine; hopefully it achieves its aims and spreads. [0] http://www.rcvmaine.com/ http://www.rcvmaine.com/
      - deleted 10y ago
        [deleted]
    - spynxic 10y ago
      "If we'd had a more nuanced system that allowed voting negative in addition to positive..." We must prove that something which may be more complex than our current system is still just as fair (or more fair).
losteric 10y ago
Oh I totally get that conservative voters have a wide range of opinions... but they're still in control of the government. Socially liberal fiscal conservatives might not like this administration's social changes, but conservative fiscal legislation will get much less scrutiny since the Democrats have almost no power. Vice versa for the rare fiscally liberal social conservatives.
coldpie 10y ago
Being anti-science, anti-intellectual, and anti-environment are core planks in the Republican platform. You have to decide if your conservative values, whatever they are, are worth voting in favor of politicians who are anti-science, anti-intellectual, and anti-environment. This isn't something new we've discovered this election, either. Every vote for a Republican for the past 40 years has been a vote in this direction. If you voted Republican in the past 40 years, you are to blame for the current government. Nice work!

odbol_ 10y ago

Also, no forests or animals.

micaksica 10y ago

> In four years, we'll either have a 1-party system or an N-party system. This is the same thing I heard from Democrats in 2000 and 2004, and the same thing I heard from Republicans in 2008. It is unlikely to actually happen. People are too complacent, and a good chunk of America will be perfectly satiated by cheap prices at the pump.