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Not sure what the author is on about, last I checked almost every company offered a wifi adapter for their cameras. Heck, with my 6D I can share directly to my

Not sure what the author is on about, last I checked almost every company offered a wifi adapter for their cameras. Heck, with my 6D I can share directly to my phone and post to social media just like you can with a smart phone camera. The thing is for the stuff I want to do, I spend at least as much time in post and doing that on a smartphone would be a huge pain.

bb88 10y ago
Yes, but for some cameras it is $900. http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/wireless/wt-5a-wireless-transmitter.html http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/wireless/w...
- vvanders 10y ago
  There's also eye-fi and other options as well. If it's something important for you buy a 6D or another camera that has built-in support. The thing with camera system is you need to have an idea of what you want to shoot and build your system towards that. The smartphone is a great all-purpose camera, if you're using a SLR/Mirrorless it's because you want to go beyond that.
- vaishaksuresh 10y ago
  Even if we ignore the wifi feature, most cameras let you connect directly the computer and transfer images. you don't need SD card slot or a dedicated card reader. I have a full frame camera and the raw images are ~30 MB. I wouldn't want to transfer 32GB of data over wifi anyway.
  - wmf 10y ago
    I think the author is imagining going from shutter press to a CMS or social media in seconds. Any workflow that involves a computer at all has already lost. If cameras can produce JPEGs presumably they should be able to produce low-res JPEGs.
    - baq 10y ago
      yeah there's no reason why lightroom couldn't work on the camera itself if it can run on an ipad. it's not like the high end dslrs couldn't be fitted with the necessary compute power - lightroom runs on old ipads after all.
      - 21 10y ago
        And for that matter you should be able to put a SIM card into the camera for direct network access. It's also big enough to put some nice antennas inside it, so you should have better signal than a phone.
    - vvanders 10y ago
      Yup, these controls already exist. You can do RAW+s/m/l/o JPG you just have a smaller buffer when you do this.
- djsumdog 10y ago
  My Sony a6000 has Wi-fi built in. It's a bit of a pain to set it up (entering a password via a control wheel), but it's there and you could create a workflow with it from Camera to Laptop to your Editor during an event.
jandrese 10y ago
I'm wondering if he is advocating for LTE modems in phones, so he can pull a picture up on the display, see that it looks passable, and hit the "send to my editor" button. Or maybe just phone integration so he can send the photos to his phone where he can stuff them in an email and send them to the editor. His primary complaint seems to be getting scooped by teenagers with their smartphones, but I don't see how anything that gets classified as a "workflow" can beat hitting the "post to Facebook" button 2 seconds after you take the picture.
- jdmichal 10y ago
  Cameras that integrate well with phones already exist. I have a Sony camera that can: * Wirelessly transfer images to my phone using wifi-direct. * Do so with a tap, as it has an embedded NFC tag. * Be remotely controlled by my phone, including a laggy but usable viewfinder display on my phone screen. This mode also automatically transfers pictures taken to the phone. Partially reposted from: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12756662 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12756662
  - stevep98 10y ago
    I find the wifi connectivity between Sony camera and my iPhone quite painful, mostly down to the fact that it creates its own wifi access point that my iPhone must switch to. Why can't it just connect to my home access point (so it can reach my iMac, and the cloud)
    - danaliv 10y ago
      My Fuji works this way too. It's maddening. And the only reason I need to transfer anything to my phone in the first place is to make up for deficiencies in the camera.
    - jdmichal 10y ago
      Requiring an access point doesn't work in the field.
miahi 10y ago
Yes, but other cameras don't have that. And it's not really about editing on smartphones. My 7D mk II is great for sports photography, but now sports means instant publish or don't shoot at all - most sports photographers now have somebody at their back with a laptop, editing in 30 seconds after the shutter stopped and sending the result to the publication website. I can't do that with my "sports" camera without investing quite a lot in an original wifi adapter or using an Eyefi.
komali2 10y ago
You can get an SD card with wifi connectivity. The cops in my last city had them in their dash cams wired up to automatically upload when they returned to the station at the end of the day. I had a fun little workflow when I traveled where I'd have a micro SD in a SD adapter plugged into my camera. When I got to a hostel, I'd plug the micro SD into my phone connected through wifi and upload to flickr and whatnot. I felt like a cyberpunky travel journalist, it was fun.

bb88 10y ago

Yes, but for some cameras it is $900. http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/wireless/wt-5a-wireless-transmitter.html http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/wireless/w...

vvanders 10y ago
There's also eye-fi and other options as well. If it's something important for you buy a 6D or another camera that has built-in support. The thing with camera system is you need to have an idea of what you want to shoot and build your system towards that. The smartphone is a great all-purpose camera, if you're using a SLR/Mirrorless it's because you want to go beyond that.
vaishaksuresh 10y ago
Even if we ignore the wifi feature, most cameras let you connect directly the computer and transfer images. you don't need SD card slot or a dedicated card reader. I have a full frame camera and the raw images are ~30 MB. I wouldn't want to transfer 32GB of data over wifi anyway.
- wmf 10y ago
  I think the author is imagining going from shutter press to a CMS or social media in seconds. Any workflow that involves a computer at all has already lost. If cameras can produce JPEGs presumably they should be able to produce low-res JPEGs.
  - baq 10y ago
    yeah there's no reason why lightroom couldn't work on the camera itself if it can run on an ipad. it's not like the high end dslrs couldn't be fitted with the necessary compute power - lightroom runs on old ipads after all.
    - 21 10y ago
      And for that matter you should be able to put a SIM card into the camera for direct network access. It's also big enough to put some nice antennas inside it, so you should have better signal than a phone.
  - vvanders 10y ago
    Yup, these controls already exist. You can do RAW+s/m/l/o JPG you just have a smaller buffer when you do this.
djsumdog 10y ago
My Sony a6000 has Wi-fi built in. It's a bit of a pain to set it up (entering a password via a control wheel), but it's there and you could create a workflow with it from Camera to Laptop to your Editor during an event.

jandrese 10y ago

I'm wondering if he is advocating for LTE modems in phones, so he can pull a picture up on the display, see that it looks passable, and hit the "send to my editor" button. Or maybe just phone integration so he can send the photos to his phone where he can stuff them in an email and send them to the editor. His primary complaint seems to be getting scooped by teenagers with their smartphones, but I don't see how anything that gets classified as a "workflow" can beat hitting the "post to Facebook" button 2 seconds after you take the picture.

jdmichal 10y ago
Cameras that integrate well with phones already exist. I have a Sony camera that can: * Wirelessly transfer images to my phone using wifi-direct. * Do so with a tap, as it has an embedded NFC tag. * Be remotely controlled by my phone, including a laggy but usable viewfinder display on my phone screen. This mode also automatically transfers pictures taken to the phone. Partially reposted from: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12756662 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12756662
- stevep98 10y ago
  I find the wifi connectivity between Sony camera and my iPhone quite painful, mostly down to the fact that it creates its own wifi access point that my iPhone must switch to. Why can't it just connect to my home access point (so it can reach my iMac, and the cloud)
  - danaliv 10y ago
    My Fuji works this way too. It's maddening. And the only reason I need to transfer anything to my phone in the first place is to make up for deficiencies in the camera.
  - jdmichal 10y ago
    Requiring an access point doesn't work in the field.

miahi 10y ago

Yes, but other cameras don't have that. And it's not really about editing on smartphones. My 7D mk II is great for sports photography, but now sports means instant publish or don't shoot at all - most sports photographers now have somebody at their back with a laptop, editing in 30 seconds after the shutter stopped and sending the result to the publication website. I can't do that with my "sports" camera without investing quite a lot in an original wifi adapter or using an Eyefi.

komali2 10y ago

You can get an SD card with wifi connectivity. The cops in my last city had them in their dash cams wired up to automatically upload when they returned to the station at the end of the day. I had a fun little workflow when I traveled where I'd have a micro SD in a SD adapter plugged into my camera. When I got to a hostel, I'd plug the micro SD into my phone connected through wifi and upload to flickr and whatnot. I felt like a cyberpunky travel journalist, it was fun.