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Would suggest the author is conflating a diversity of workflows for a single, monotheistic view. Professional imagers have large files, and they must post-prod

Would suggest the author is conflating a diversity of workflows for a single, monotheistic view. Professional imagers have large files, and they must post-produce them. Those things like card readers, additional ports, etc. ignore that particular audiences needs. To draw an analogy to another closely relation field in motion pictures, this too is mired in a divergence of needs and contexts. The author of the post would probably cringe at the complexity... Making a case for XXX workflow should always be grounded in the contexts present. While a professional league sports team only makes up less than a shred of a fraction of active players, the needs of that league are not suddenly insignificant due to share.

m3rc 10y ago
Yeah the part about windowed desktop environments gave me some pause and then sure enough further down there was more "if you're doing something other than what I'm doing, you're doing it wrong"
rodgerd 10y ago
> Making a case for XXX workflow should always be grounded in the contexts present. Here's the context: camera makers are getting the shit kicked out of them. The market is plummeting. It caters to the myopic needs of people who want to pretend that, to be a photographer, you have to work like it's a 1950s darkroom, only with computers. Compact cameras a being destroyed by cellphones, which is where all the imaging innovation is actually happening. Without the cross-subsidy to high-end cameras, prices for lenses and bodies are going up with every generation, unlike every other tech out there. But you know, keep pretending it's everyone else who's wrong.
- tensor 10y ago
  You haven't addressed any of the specific problems the parent presented. And no, in the market segment the parent is referring to mobile phones are not making any inroads.
- ghaff 10y ago
  There is imaging innovation happening in cellphones but a lot of it is going to making the physical/optical limitations of a device that people are happy to carry with them all the time not prevent taking a "good enough" photograph. I do think that computational photography is going to become more important and that, as we move away from "decisive moment" photo styles in many cases, even higher-end camera will change as a result. But it's unclear what exactly makes sense in higher-end camera today, especially given that much of the audience for such cameras generally hate interfaces getting all cluttered up with the consumer features of the moment. (e.g. I think my Canon DSLR has some sort of direct to printer that I've never used--and can't imagine many do these days).
- foolrush 10y ago
  > The market is plummeting. If there were a niche that wasn't being served, then sure, pocket camera / cell phone could fill it where previous consumers only had a DSLR. That said, that same niche that provides an entry point to photography will yield people that begin to understand why you can only achieve certain aesthetics via larger format sensors and optics. At that point, DSLRs are purchased again. Canon isn't going anywhere with DSLRs. Nikon? No. Sony? Seems their foray into interchangeable lens cameras has grown, not receded. In the end, no one is going to be able to sit and argue with someone that doesn't understand the differences and questions of qualia with you, but you know, keep pretending it's everyone else that is in the dark.
  - rodgerd 10y ago
    > Canon isn't going anywhere with DSLRs. Nikon? No. Sony? Seems their foray into interchangeable lens cameras has grown, not receded. The facts - sales volumes and profitability - don't actually agree with you.

m3rc 10y ago

Yeah the part about windowed desktop environments gave me some pause and then sure enough further down there was more "if you're doing something other than what I'm doing, you're doing it wrong"

rodgerd 10y ago

> Making a case for XXX workflow should always be grounded in the contexts present. Here's the context: camera makers are getting the shit kicked out of them. The market is plummeting. It caters to the myopic needs of people who want to pretend that, to be a photographer, you have to work like it's a 1950s darkroom, only with computers. Compact cameras a being destroyed by cellphones, which is where all the imaging innovation is actually happening. Without the cross-subsidy to high-end cameras, prices for lenses and bodies are going up with every generation, unlike every other tech out there. But you know, keep pretending it's everyone else who's wrong.

tensor 10y ago
You haven't addressed any of the specific problems the parent presented. And no, in the market segment the parent is referring to mobile phones are not making any inroads.
ghaff 10y ago
There is imaging innovation happening in cellphones but a lot of it is going to making the physical/optical limitations of a device that people are happy to carry with them all the time not prevent taking a "good enough" photograph. I do think that computational photography is going to become more important and that, as we move away from "decisive moment" photo styles in many cases, even higher-end camera will change as a result. But it's unclear what exactly makes sense in higher-end camera today, especially given that much of the audience for such cameras generally hate interfaces getting all cluttered up with the consumer features of the moment. (e.g. I think my Canon DSLR has some sort of direct to printer that I've never used--and can't imagine many do these days).
foolrush 10y ago
> The market is plummeting. If there were a niche that wasn't being served, then sure, pocket camera / cell phone could fill it where previous consumers only had a DSLR. That said, that same niche that provides an entry point to photography will yield people that begin to understand why you can only achieve certain aesthetics via larger format sensors and optics. At that point, DSLRs are purchased again. Canon isn't going anywhere with DSLRs. Nikon? No. Sony? Seems their foray into interchangeable lens cameras has grown, not receded. In the end, no one is going to be able to sit and argue with someone that doesn't understand the differences and questions of qualia with you, but you know, keep pretending it's everyone else that is in the dark.
- rodgerd 10y ago
  > Canon isn't going anywhere with DSLRs. Nikon? No. Sony? Seems their foray into interchangeable lens cameras has grown, not receded. The facts - sales volumes and profitability - don't actually agree with you.