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I don't even use Facebook! But I primarily read mainstream (i.e. "liberal") newspapers like the New York Times, the Guardian, the New Yorker, and similar. And n

by md_ 10y ago

I don't even use Facebook! But I primarily read mainstream (i.e. "liberal") newspapers like the New York Times, the Guardian, the New Yorker, and similar. And none of them have any opinion writers making a case for Trump! So it's the traditional filter bubble, not the social media bubble.

ddorian43 10y ago
First you say "i thought social media would help" and then you say "i don't social media". Did you read any positive things pro-brexit ?
- md_ 10y ago
  Sorry, good point. What I meant initially was, "I thought the promise of social media was to drive down polarization." I think I'm not the only one who doesn't know anyone with the alternative view. Did I read any pro-Brexit arguments? Hmm. I read a fair amount of fairly wonkish economic arguments--as with trade barriers, however, it seems that most professional policy experts (and most economists) are generally pro-free-trade and don't have much to say on this being good policy. Again, maybe my perception is a bit off, but I see this as similar to climate change arguments: the science (especially when it comes to macroeconomics) is imperfect, but if you restrict yourself to those with some academic qualifications, you see a very different picture than if you read political opinion.
  - ddorian43 10y ago
    When Bernie competed against Clinton, I don't think there was anyone pro Clinton. Stuff happened. You could've gone to /r/the_donald. Beside the memes, there were many threads for each podesta email-leak, linking specific comments/sentences for deplorable dnc doings. But you instead went to cnn, where it is illegal to think for yourself. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DcATG9Qy_A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DcATG9Qy_A ) Now, it will be the Hillary supporters that need to create new accounts to defend her.
    - md_ 10y ago
      I actually did spend a lot of time passively reading r/the_donald, but as you say, it seemed more into the other side (email leaks, etc) than into Trump's policy proposals or similar. I don't watch CNN. Not a big fan of TV news.
    - scrollaway 10y ago
      You're doing exactly what both sides have been complaining about: vilifying the other side and making assumptions. And you're doing it to someone replying to you in good faith. Knock it off.
      - ddorian43 10y ago
        I didn't make assumptions, he already said he was reading 'liberal media'. I was trying to say what happened because of that. Knock it off.
jimktrains2 10y ago
Heck, the WaPo and Economist are normally good political opposites of NYT and Guardian, but even they found Trump repulsive.

by md_ 10y ago

ddorian43 10y ago

First you say "i thought social media would help" and then you say "i don't social media". Did you read any positive things pro-brexit ?

md_ 10y ago
Sorry, good point. What I meant initially was, "I thought the promise of social media was to drive down polarization." I think I'm not the only one who doesn't know anyone with the alternative view. Did I read any pro-Brexit arguments? Hmm. I read a fair amount of fairly wonkish economic arguments--as with trade barriers, however, it seems that most professional policy experts (and most economists) are generally pro-free-trade and don't have much to say on this being good policy. Again, maybe my perception is a bit off, but I see this as similar to climate change arguments: the science (especially when it comes to macroeconomics) is imperfect, but if you restrict yourself to those with some academic qualifications, you see a very different picture than if you read political opinion.
- ddorian43 10y ago
  When Bernie competed against Clinton, I don't think there was anyone pro Clinton. Stuff happened. You could've gone to /r/the_donald. Beside the memes, there were many threads for each podesta email-leak, linking specific comments/sentences for deplorable dnc doings. But you instead went to cnn, where it is illegal to think for yourself. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DcATG9Qy_A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DcATG9Qy_A ) Now, it will be the Hillary supporters that need to create new accounts to defend her.
  - md_ 10y ago
    I actually did spend a lot of time passively reading r/the_donald, but as you say, it seemed more into the other side (email leaks, etc) than into Trump's policy proposals or similar. I don't watch CNN. Not a big fan of TV news.
  - scrollaway 10y ago
    You're doing exactly what both sides have been complaining about: vilifying the other side and making assumptions. And you're doing it to someone replying to you in good faith. Knock it off.
    - ddorian43 10y ago
      I didn't make assumptions, he already said he was reading 'liberal media'. I was trying to say what happened because of that. Knock it off.

jimktrains2 10y ago

Heck, the WaPo and Economist are normally good political opposites of NYT and Guardian, but even they found Trump repulsive.