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I can't fathom you interpreting the result as a "loud mandate." The presidential race has been extremely tight with ~200,000 separating the two. Is that a clear

I can't fathom you interpreting the result as a "loud mandate." The presidential race has been extremely tight with ~200,000 separating the two. Is that a clear mandate? No, it is a clear indication of the divisions in our country.

oarsinsync 10y ago
>> Not just the POTUS, but the trifecta of the house and senate as well. That's as loud of a mandate as can be expected from a strongly divided country > I can't fathom you interpreting the result as a "loud mandate." The presidential race has been extremely tight with ~200,000 separating the two. Is that a clear mandate? > No, it is a clear indication of the divisions in our country. Yes, the country is divided. A single party taking all three major government divisions is as loud a mandate as you can expect in a strongly divided country.
- mch82 10y ago
  > ...as loud a mandate as you can expect in a strongly divided country Only true if the way voting happened didn't disenfranchise voters. Yet we know that the way voting happened, with gerrymandering and discriminatory rules in some states, did disenfranchise voters.
  - plussed_reader 10y ago
    So you agree, the system is rigged? Because I see the candidate that clamored loudest about the system being rigged won.
    - mch82 10y ago
      Check it out: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/26/us/elections/voter-id-laws.html http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/26/us/elections/voter-id-l... And a more recent article that reviews how the election went: https://www.thenation.com/article/the-gops-attack-on-voting-rights-was-the-most-under-covered-story-of-2016/ https://www.thenation.com/article/the-gops-attack-on-voting-... Look at who Trump is appointing, who his policies will hurt, and tell me who you think the system is rigged for? Can you find any articles about white, Republican voters unable to vote? I'm going to keep trying and will post back if I can.
- noobiemcfoob 10y ago
  They didn't take over all three major government branches. They "took over" one via the Presidency. They maintained their majorities in the legislature. They will maintain a hold on the Supreme Court by virtue of the Presidency, not public mandate. In a strongly divided country, interpreting anything as a clear public mandate can be disastrous.
  - shawn-furyan 10y ago
    Dusting off QFT for: "In a strongly divided country, interpreting anything as a clear public mandate can be disastrous."

oarsinsync 10y ago

>> Not just the POTUS, but the trifecta of the house and senate as well. That's as loud of a mandate as can be expected from a strongly divided country > I can't fathom you interpreting the result as a "loud mandate." The presidential race has been extremely tight with ~200,000 separating the two. Is that a clear mandate? > No, it is a clear indication of the divisions in our country. Yes, the country is divided. A single party taking all three major government divisions is as loud a mandate as you can expect in a strongly divided country.

mch82 10y ago
> ...as loud a mandate as you can expect in a strongly divided country Only true if the way voting happened didn't disenfranchise voters. Yet we know that the way voting happened, with gerrymandering and discriminatory rules in some states, did disenfranchise voters.
- plussed_reader 10y ago
  So you agree, the system is rigged? Because I see the candidate that clamored loudest about the system being rigged won.
  - mch82 10y ago
    Check it out: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/26/us/elections/voter-id-laws.html http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/26/us/elections/voter-id-l... And a more recent article that reviews how the election went: https://www.thenation.com/article/the-gops-attack-on-voting-rights-was-the-most-under-covered-story-of-2016/ https://www.thenation.com/article/the-gops-attack-on-voting-... Look at who Trump is appointing, who his policies will hurt, and tell me who you think the system is rigged for? Can you find any articles about white, Republican voters unable to vote? I'm going to keep trying and will post back if I can.
noobiemcfoob 10y ago
They didn't take over all three major government branches. They "took over" one via the Presidency. They maintained their majorities in the legislature. They will maintain a hold on the Supreme Court by virtue of the Presidency, not public mandate. In a strongly divided country, interpreting anything as a clear public mandate can be disastrous.
- shawn-furyan 10y ago
  Dusting off QFT for: "In a strongly divided country, interpreting anything as a clear public mandate can be disastrous."