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It didn't help that while he was "bullshitting", Hillary was calling them deplorable. Empathy for the win.

_audakel 10y ago
Reminds me of romneys infomous 47% remark. Seems like there is a geuine disconnect btwn current pollitical class and the "silent majority"
- dopamean 10y ago
  Very true and worth remembering for anyone planning to run for elected office in the future.
- knz 10y ago
  Hillary won the popular vote - I'm not sure there is such a thing as a "silent majority" for a candidate that lost the popular vote?
  - CamperBob2 10y ago
    We don't use the popular vote for anything in the US. It's a completely meaningless metric.
    - finiter 10y ago
      Your statement does not provide support for their being a silent majority for Trump. But I hope people consider what you said when someone talks about how Hillary or the media or whatever is part of the corrupt "Establishment".
      - CamperBob2 10y ago
        It doesn't matter whether there was a "silent majority" for Trump or anyone else because we don't attach any importance to a majority vote at the national level. Nor should we. If we did, three metropolitan areas in New York and California would dictate the outcomes of our Presidential elections. But I hope people consider what you said when someone talks about how Hillary or the media or whatever is part of the corrupt "Establishment". That, on the other hand, is no longer questionable. https://www.google.com/#safe=off&q=pied+piper+candidates+wikileaks https://www.google.com/#safe=off&q=pied+piper+candidates+wik...
  - micahbright 10y ago
    Good thing the rules are agreed to before the competition. BTW, the popular vote hasn't been completely counted, and probably never will be. Absentee ballot, which generally favor Republicans, will not be counted in any of the states that didn't have a close margin of error(read: most of the red states). In a close election like this, you really have no ground complaining about popular vote.
lostlogin 10y ago
It's interesting reading through comments and seeing "them" mentioned. A lot of it will be because HN has a lot of international posters, but descriptions of Clinton voters don't read like this.
finiter 10y ago
You have it backwards. She was trying to differentiate his racist support from his "we're worried about our jobs" support. Read the text of her speech. "You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. [...] But the other basket — and I know this because I see friends from all over America here — I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas — as well as, you know, New York and California — but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well." EDIT: The transcript I pulled this from: http://time.com/4486502/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorables-transcript/ http://time.com/4486502/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorable...
- drakenot 10y ago
  Thanks, I had never read the full quote. That seems much more reasonable than what everyone made it out to be.
  - finiter 10y ago
    Be sure to also read her State Department emails that were leaked. Paints a very different picture of her than what headlines do.
- rayiner 10y ago
  She called 50% of Trump's supporters racists, homophobes, etc. How is that not exactly what the quote is made out to be? If she had said "some of Trump's supporters" you'd be right.
  - finiter 10y ago

Reminds me of romneys infomous 47% remark. Seems like there is a geuine disconnect btwn current pollitical class and the "silent majority"

dopamean 10y ago
Very true and worth remembering for anyone planning to run for elected office in the future.
knz 10y ago
Hillary won the popular vote - I'm not sure there is such a thing as a "silent majority" for a candidate that lost the popular vote?
- CamperBob2 10y ago
  We don't use the popular vote for anything in the US. It's a completely meaningless metric.
  - finiter 10y ago
    Your statement does not provide support for their being a silent majority for Trump. But I hope people consider what you said when someone talks about how Hillary or the media or whatever is part of the corrupt "Establishment".
    - CamperBob2 10y ago
      It doesn't matter whether there was a "silent majority" for Trump or anyone else because we don't attach any importance to a majority vote at the national level. Nor should we. If we did, three metropolitan areas in New York and California would dictate the outcomes of our Presidential elections. But I hope people consider what you said when someone talks about how Hillary or the media or whatever is part of the corrupt "Establishment". That, on the other hand, is no longer questionable. https://www.google.com/#safe=off&q=pied+piper+candidates+wikileaks https://www.google.com/#safe=off&q=pied+piper+candidates+wik...
- micahbright 10y ago
  Good thing the rules are agreed to before the competition. BTW, the popular vote hasn't been completely counted, and probably never will be. Absentee ballot, which generally favor Republicans, will not be counted in any of the states that didn't have a close margin of error(read: most of the red states). In a close election like this, you really have no ground complaining about popular vote.

lostlogin 10y ago

It's interesting reading through comments and seeing "them" mentioned. A lot of it will be because HN has a lot of international posters, but descriptions of Clinton voters don't read like this.

finiter 10y ago

You have it backwards. She was trying to differentiate his racist support from his "we're worried about our jobs" support. Read the text of her speech. "You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. [...] But the other basket — and I know this because I see friends from all over America here — I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas — as well as, you know, New York and California — but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well." EDIT: The transcript I pulled this from: http://time.com/4486502/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorables-transcript/ http://time.com/4486502/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorable...

drakenot 10y ago
Thanks, I had never read the full quote. That seems much more reasonable than what everyone made it out to be.
- finiter 10y ago
  Be sure to also read her State Department emails that were leaked. Paints a very different picture of her than what headlines do.
rayiner 10y ago
She called 50% of Trump's supporters racists, homophobes, etc. How is that not exactly what the quote is made out to be? If she had said "some of Trump's supporters" you'd be right.
- finiter 10y ago