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I'd argue you are clueless. Trump has been sued several times for the discrimination against black people, he fired black people from his casinos and moved them

I'd argue you are clueless. Trump has been sued several times for the discrimination against black people, he fired black people from his casinos and moved them to the back, he INSISTS TO THIS DAY that the Central Park Five are guilty despite DNA evidence, he jokes and also brags about literally molesting women. People like you disgust me. Stop acting like his words and actions don't matter.

vinhboy 10y ago
Thank you for saying this. I needed this today. I am so damn sick of people trying to wiggle out of the "racist" label. Economic anxiety is not an excuse for racism.
- gragas 10y ago
  I voted for Trump and I'm not racist.
  - zichy 10y ago
    Yes, we have already established that you are clueless.
  - AnOscelot 10y ago
    Doesn't matter if you're personally racist or not. You voted for a racist who has used racism as a substantial part of his campaign. You've done your part to give a racist power.
    - vinhboy 10y ago
      Thank you for saying this. I didn't want to respond to him because this answer seemed so obvious. I am glad others see it.
- Pica_soO 10y ago
  Why not make a separate country, secede from the union, and proof by implementation the superiority of everyone s ideology?
- rapsacnz 10y ago
  @gragas I think to some extent, all of us are racist. Plus, unconscious bias is pretty much ubiquitous. I think you have to be more specific that saying that you are not racist.
micahbright 10y ago
>Trump has been sued several times for the discrimination against black people That may say more about black people than it says about Trump. Call me a racist - I dare you.
- commenting 10y ago
  Yes, you're a racist because you extrapolated your interpretation of the behaviour of a handful of people (i.e. those who sued Trump and are black) to an entire race.
  - micahbright 10y ago
    I did no such thing. I extrapolated his undetailed version of events. It goes both ways, you can say that means "black people" are in the right, or you can say Donald Trump is in the right because there are no facts to support either side.
- yolesaber 10y ago
  You're a racist. Read the facts: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-h...
  - micahbright 10y ago
    nytimes - opinion discarded
    - grzm 10y ago
      What sources do you use and recommend? Why?
      - micahbright 10y ago
        I recommend you cross examine liberal and conservative news sources, since, we have a fundamentally polarized and biased media system. Furthermore, you could just read the primary sources since they are all publicly available at the courthouse - for a price.
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dang 10y ago
> People like you disgust me. You can't comment like this on HN, regardless of how right you are and how strongly you feel. Personal attacks in particular are not ok. Comments need to get more civil as the topic grows more contentious, or else our hope of substantive discussion goes up in flames. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12911145 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12911145 and marked it off-topic.
- jernfrost 10y ago
  He did not attack specific people or clearly identifiable subgroups or minorities. He attacked a broad category of people for holding certain views. I think that is well within what is acceptable in online debate. If you are going to attack this argument, then you might as well say it is unacceptable to call people who favor cutting off hands of thieves for barbaric. Sure you characterize people with a mean word "barbaric", but it you are not singling out particular people only those holding such views.
  - dang 10y ago
    > well within what is acceptable in online debate. I don't know about 'online debate', but "People like you disgust me" is not acceptable on HN. Indeed it's well below the minimum acceptable, so this ought to be obvious. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
- unimpressive 10y ago
  I know this is hard, so thank you.
antisthenes 10y ago
Step back for a second and consider how many millions voted for him despite those remarks and issues. Perhaps if you are so disgusted by half of the citizens in your country, you should seriously consider emigrating somewhere else, if that's truly an issue for you. But I suspect, like most comments on the Internet, it's nothing more but empty posturing.
- yolesaber 10y ago
  Actually, I'm not going anywhere because I'm staying in the US to fight for what I believe is right, just, and true - namely the sanctity of rights for all people, regardless of skin color, gender, religion, or sexual orientation. See you there.

vinhboy 10y ago

Thank you for saying this. I needed this today. I am so damn sick of people trying to wiggle out of the "racist" label. Economic anxiety is not an excuse for racism.

gragas 10y ago
I voted for Trump and I'm not racist.
- zichy 10y ago
  Yes, we have already established that you are clueless.
- AnOscelot 10y ago
  Doesn't matter if you're personally racist or not. You voted for a racist who has used racism as a substantial part of his campaign. You've done your part to give a racist power.
  - vinhboy 10y ago
    Thank you for saying this. I didn't want to respond to him because this answer seemed so obvious. I am glad others see it.
Pica_soO 10y ago
Why not make a separate country, secede from the union, and proof by implementation the superiority of everyone s ideology?
rapsacnz 10y ago
@gragas I think to some extent, all of us are racist. Plus, unconscious bias is pretty much ubiquitous. I think you have to be more specific that saying that you are not racist.

micahbright 10y ago

>Trump has been sued several times for the discrimination against black people That may say more about black people than it says about Trump. Call me a racist - I dare you.

commenting 10y ago
Yes, you're a racist because you extrapolated your interpretation of the behaviour of a handful of people (i.e. those who sued Trump and are black) to an entire race.
- micahbright 10y ago
  I did no such thing. I extrapolated his undetailed version of events. It goes both ways, you can say that means "black people" are in the right, or you can say Donald Trump is in the right because there are no facts to support either side.
yolesaber 10y ago
You're a racist. Read the facts: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-h...
- micahbright 10y ago
  nytimes - opinion discarded
  - grzm 10y ago
    What sources do you use and recommend? Why?
    - micahbright 10y ago
      I recommend you cross examine liberal and conservative news sources, since, we have a fundamentally polarized and biased media system. Furthermore, you could just read the primary sources since they are all publicly available at the courthouse - for a price.

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dang 10y ago

> People like you disgust me. You can't comment like this on HN, regardless of how right you are and how strongly you feel. Personal attacks in particular are not ok. Comments need to get more civil as the topic grows more contentious, or else our hope of substantive discussion goes up in flames. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12911145 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12911145 and marked it off-topic.

jernfrost 10y ago
He did not attack specific people or clearly identifiable subgroups or minorities. He attacked a broad category of people for holding certain views. I think that is well within what is acceptable in online debate. If you are going to attack this argument, then you might as well say it is unacceptable to call people who favor cutting off hands of thieves for barbaric. Sure you characterize people with a mean word "barbaric", but it you are not singling out particular people only those holding such views.
- dang 10y ago
  > well within what is acceptable in online debate. I don't know about 'online debate', but "People like you disgust me" is not acceptable on HN. Indeed it's well below the minimum acceptable, so this ought to be obvious. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
unimpressive 10y ago
I know this is hard, so thank you.

antisthenes 10y ago

Step back for a second and consider how many millions voted for him despite those remarks and issues. Perhaps if you are so disgusted by half of the citizens in your country, you should seriously consider emigrating somewhere else, if that's truly an issue for you. But I suspect, like most comments on the Internet, it's nothing more but empty posturing.

yolesaber 10y ago
Actually, I'm not going anywhere because I'm staying in the US to fight for what I believe is right, just, and true - namely the sanctity of rights for all people, regardless of skin color, gender, religion, or sexual orientation. See you there.