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> On one of my teams of 10 people at Google, we had immigrants from Iceland, England, Vietnam, China, Taiwan, and India, and I was the only native-born American
by TheGirondin 10y ago
> On one of my teams of 10 people at Google, we had immigrants from Iceland, England, Vietnam, China, Taiwan, and India, and I was the only native-born American citizen. California would sooner secede than deport all of its immigrants.
No one wants to send legal immigrants on your team back their countries of origin. Blue collar, unskilled laborers want to stop the influx of unskilled laborers and illegal immigrants who 1) take their jobs and depress their wages and 2) take up resources from social programs.
- jackmaney 10y ago> No one wants to send legal immigrants on your team back their countries of origin. What about legal immigrants who are also Muslim?
- TheGirondin 10y agoIf they want to come in legally and can be properly vetted for ties with Islamic terrorist groups there's no issue and they can come in legally like everyone else.
- jackmaney 10y agoYour President-Elect disagrees with you, and has called for the deportation of all Muslims--full stop.
- TheGirondin 10y agoNo, he has not.
- jackmaney 10y agohttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=trump+keep+out+muslims http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trump+keep+out+muslims
- atypicaluser 10y agoKeeping Muslims out of the US (banning Muslim immigration to the US) != deportation. You may disagree with Trump, but please don't put words in his mouth.
- TheGirondin 10y agoSo no, he didn't say that. Thanks.
- cylinder 10y agoI don't understand why the Professional class struggles with this simple concept so much. Just look at the angst on HN about H1B IT workers undercutting US IT workers (and those are legal!). I would imagine this group's priorities would dramatically change if boatloads of Eastern European software engineers were arriving illegally in Silicon Valley and accepting salaries at half of their own. Then try to be concerned with lofty concepts such as "inclusiveness!" "stronger together!" "immigration!" when you're out of work due to ongoing violations of the law that half the country seems perfectly okay with. And on top of that, they call you racist for pointing it out!
- shuntress 10y agoIf someone walked in to my office, pointed at me and said "I'll do that guys job for half the price" I would wonder two things: 1) Can he do this job as well as I can? 2) If he can, why would he accept half of what I am under-payed?
- shady-lady 10y agobecause 1) Subjective answer either way. and 2) because he (potentially) gets to have a better quality of life than he currently has, with more opportunities to boot.
- shuntress 10y agoSure, it isn't as easily measurable as stamping holes in license plates. But it is not impossible to evaluate performance. It may take some time to evaluate, but I honestly feel my manager is good enough at his job to evaluate his worker's performance. So, maybe initially, he pulls himself out of destitution with the job he 'stole' from me. Now he is just forever grateful that he doesn't have it much worse so he never wants more? If the company gets a company man who does the job, never complains, and never asks for a raise, why would they ever hire me? The american who wants more money for the same job.
- eli_gottlieb 10y agoAs a socialist, I also don't understand why the professional caste has a hard time with this. "Free" exploitation by the sleaziest employers in the country, facilitated by commercial trafficking in humans, is not the internationalist dream any prospective uniter of mankind has proposed.