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For those with a shorter attention span, there's an addictive card game in which changing the rules is a move: http://www.wunderland.com/LooneyLabs/Fluxx/ http:

For those with a shorter attention span, there's an addictive card game in which changing the rules is a move: http://www.wunderland.com/LooneyLabs/Fluxx/ http://www.wunderland.com/LooneyLabs/Fluxx/

gte910h 17y ago
Be forewarned, the game can go quite long as mathematically, there is no guarantee it will halt.
- hugh3 17y ago
  It can also be quite frequently won on the first turn.
  - jeffbradberry 17y ago
    Not at all in any of the variants I know of.
    - gte910h 17y ago
      By first turn, he means "first play around the table". If you get a play 3 or play all out in the first turn, and someone else has 2 keepers that match a goal card, someone can then win by playing all three.
    - dfreidin 17y ago
      In Monty Python Fluxx, you can play "Play All," use "Bring Out Your Dead" to get rid of all your cards except for "The Cheese Shop" which you then play to win.
- msg 17y ago
  But as a player there are many things you can do to ensure that it ends quickly (draw 4, play all, let's do that again, take another turn). You might not always be the beneficiary but the game will be over shortly. I'm a fan of the zombie version, which is a hoot.
aristus 17y ago
There is also Mao, which halts but is just as fun. The first rule of Mao is that you don't talk about the rules of Mao. And the winner gets to add a new rule.
JoachimSchipper 17y ago
I have that one. The concept is interesting, but Fluxx doesn't allow you to change the rules, only some parameters (e.g. take n cards a turn, play m cards). I felt it failed to live up to the promise of its concept.
- anthonyb 17y ago
  That's what I found too - Fluxx is pretty lightweight. Well, compared to some of the rules that I've played with in Bartok eg. prime-numbered black cards are clubs, non-prime red cards add one to their value (mod-13, naturally), sevens "don't exist" (they have no effect on play, don't count towards your hand total, etc.)

For those with a shorter attention span, there's an addictive card game in which changing the rules is a move: http://www.wunderland.com/LooneyLabs/Fluxx/ http://www.wunderland.com/LooneyLabs/Fluxx/

gte910h 17y ago

Be forewarned, the game can go quite long as mathematically, there is no guarantee it will halt.

hugh3 17y ago
It can also be quite frequently won on the first turn.
- jeffbradberry 17y ago
  Not at all in any of the variants I know of.
  - gte910h 17y ago
    By first turn, he means "first play around the table". If you get a play 3 or play all out in the first turn, and someone else has 2 keepers that match a goal card, someone can then win by playing all three.
  - dfreidin 17y ago
    In Monty Python Fluxx, you can play "Play All," use "Bring Out Your Dead" to get rid of all your cards except for "The Cheese Shop" which you then play to win.
msg 17y ago
But as a player there are many things you can do to ensure that it ends quickly (draw 4, play all, let's do that again, take another turn). You might not always be the beneficiary but the game will be over shortly. I'm a fan of the zombie version, which is a hoot.

aristus 17y ago

There is also Mao, which halts but is just as fun. The first rule of Mao is that you don't talk about the rules of Mao. And the winner gets to add a new rule.

JoachimSchipper 17y ago

I have that one. The concept is interesting, but Fluxx doesn't allow you to change the rules, only some parameters (e.g. take n cards a turn, play m cards). I felt it failed to live up to the promise of its concept.

anthonyb 17y ago
That's what I found too - Fluxx is pretty lightweight. Well, compared to some of the rules that I've played with in Bartok eg. prime-numbered black cards are clubs, non-prime red cards add one to their value (mod-13, naturally), sevens "don't exist" (they have no effect on play, don't count towards your hand total, etc.)