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Apple wants to control their platform. Microsoft wanted to control all platforms. There is a difference. Or to put it another way, when I have to buy an iPho

by tvon 17y ago

Apple wants to control their platform. Microsoft wanted to control all platforms. There is a difference. Or to put it another way, when I have to buy an iPhone to collaborate with people around me who have iPhones, then you'll have an argument to make.

jasonlotito 17y ago
Apple also wants to control other platforms. And they are doing a good job of it, as well. Pushing H.264, their involvement with HTML5 with WebKit. Apple wants to control all aspects, and if they could, they'd control the web experience as well. This isn't to suggest that other companies aren't jockeying for position as well. I just don't think Apple is merely looking at their platform. They see anything that runs on Apple as their platform. And yes, again, I'm focusing on Apple here, but they aren't the only one playing the game. =)
- tvon 17y ago
  I don't follow, Apple doesn't control H.264, HTML5 or even WebKit. Or do you mean, pushing those items over adopting Flash? Even so, that's not Apple controlling the web platform, that's just Apple making sure Adobe doesn't control it.
  - jasonlotito 17y ago
    "Apple doesn't control H.264, HTML5 or even WebKit." I didn't say they did. I didn't even imply they did. That's not even close to what I said. They do, however, want to control those technologies, and they want as much control as they can get. As for Flash, I don't see why this even came into it. I didn't mention it, or even consider it. However, Flash is one more example of Flash in control, and only strengthens my point. Basically, Apple isn't supporting H.264, HTML5, or WebKit to benefit the open nature of the web. They are supporting it because it gives them more control over their platform. Finally, as far as WebKit goes, they do control their version of it. They also control how they implement HTML5 on their platform. You can suggest they aren't doing this, but all their actions demonstrate the desire to do just this. Anyways, next time, focus on what I said. Not what you think I said.
Tichy 17y ago
So providing an operating system for zillions of different devices is more evil than providing one for just one hardware device? I don't get it.

by tvon 17y ago

jasonlotito 17y ago

Apple also wants to control other platforms. And they are doing a good job of it, as well. Pushing H.264, their involvement with HTML5 with WebKit. Apple wants to control all aspects, and if they could, they'd control the web experience as well. This isn't to suggest that other companies aren't jockeying for position as well. I just don't think Apple is merely looking at their platform. They see anything that runs on Apple as their platform. And yes, again, I'm focusing on Apple here, but they aren't the only one playing the game. =)

tvon 17y ago
I don't follow, Apple doesn't control H.264, HTML5 or even WebKit. Or do you mean, pushing those items over adopting Flash? Even so, that's not Apple controlling the web platform, that's just Apple making sure Adobe doesn't control it.
- jasonlotito 17y ago
  "Apple doesn't control H.264, HTML5 or even WebKit." I didn't say they did. I didn't even imply they did. That's not even close to what I said. They do, however, want to control those technologies, and they want as much control as they can get. As for Flash, I don't see why this even came into it. I didn't mention it, or even consider it. However, Flash is one more example of Flash in control, and only strengthens my point. Basically, Apple isn't supporting H.264, HTML5, or WebKit to benefit the open nature of the web. They are supporting it because it gives them more control over their platform. Finally, as far as WebKit goes, they do control their version of it. They also control how they implement HTML5 on their platform. You can suggest they aren't doing this, but all their actions demonstrate the desire to do just this. Anyways, next time, focus on what I said. Not what you think I said.

Tichy 17y ago

So providing an operating system for zillions of different devices is more evil than providing one for just one hardware device? I don't get it.