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Somewhere on the internet, someone is taking this seriously.

crocowhile 16y ago
See http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe%27s_Law http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe%27s_Law What I don't understand is what is the position of Cecilia Malmström is.
- seven 16y ago
  Cecilia Malmström plans to introduce a website blocking system in Europe. This part is sadly no satire.
  - bjelkeman-again 16y ago
    Here is a link with some background http://bendrath.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-try-dialogue-with-eu-commissioner.html http://bendrath.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-try-dialogue-with-eu-... and a link to the actual Proposal for "on combating the sexual abuse, sexual exploitation of children and child pornography, repealing Framework Decision 2004/68/JHA" http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/news/intro/doc/com_2010_94_en.pdf http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/news/intro/doc/com_2010_94_...
  - crocowhile 16y ago
    And these people keep calling themselves "Liberals". Beats me.
    - ugh 16y ago
      Liberal is used as a descriptive term in the US while in this case it’s part of a party name. Party names don’t have to – for various historical reasons – reflect the current political positions of a party (think US party names). That’s especially the case in current European democracies with proportional representation. All the parties have very similar positions close to the center, it’s easy for any one party to end up to the “left” or “right” of other parties on any one issue. (Liberal also doesn’t have the same meaning in Europe as in the US. Liberals in Europe are usually socially permissive as well as economically permissive – like Libertarians in the US. But that doesn’t have anything to do with the point you are making – Malmström’s position is not exactly socially permissive.)
      - crocowhile 16y ago
        >Liberal also doesn’t have the same meaning in Europe as in the US. I know. I am Italian. >Malmström’s position is not exactly socially permissive. That's the point. There's nothing liberal in censorship.
        ugh 16y ago
        >I know. I am Italian. Oh, sorry. I promise, no more bad assumptions. I should have just written that party names are not a good predictor of political positions and left it at that :)
        crocowhile 16y ago
        No prob. It's sad to see that Internet Freedom is really being attacked transversely by all political sides, on every continent. Always with the lame excuse of child pornography. I still haven't decide whether this is the Intellectual Property mafia lobbying or perhaps politicians start to be really afraid of the internet.

See http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe%27s_Law http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe%27s_Law What I don't understand is what is the position of Cecilia Malmström is.

seven 16y ago
Cecilia Malmström plans to introduce a website blocking system in Europe. This part is sadly no satire.
- bjelkeman-again 16y ago
  Here is a link with some background http://bendrath.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-try-dialogue-with-eu-commissioner.html http://bendrath.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-try-dialogue-with-eu-... and a link to the actual Proposal for "on combating the sexual abuse, sexual exploitation of children and child pornography, repealing Framework Decision 2004/68/JHA" http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/news/intro/doc/com_2010_94_en.pdf http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/news/intro/doc/com_2010_94_...
- crocowhile 16y ago
  And these people keep calling themselves "Liberals". Beats me.
  - ugh 16y ago
    Liberal is used as a descriptive term in the US while in this case it’s part of a party name. Party names don’t have to – for various historical reasons – reflect the current political positions of a party (think US party names). That’s especially the case in current European democracies with proportional representation. All the parties have very similar positions close to the center, it’s easy for any one party to end up to the “left” or “right” of other parties on any one issue. (Liberal also doesn’t have the same meaning in Europe as in the US. Liberals in Europe are usually socially permissive as well as economically permissive – like Libertarians in the US. But that doesn’t have anything to do with the point you are making – Malmström’s position is not exactly socially permissive.)
    - crocowhile 16y ago
      >Liberal also doesn’t have the same meaning in Europe as in the US. I know. I am Italian. >Malmström’s position is not exactly socially permissive. That's the point. There's nothing liberal in censorship.
      - ugh 16y ago
        >I know. I am Italian. Oh, sorry. I promise, no more bad assumptions. I should have just written that party names are not a good predictor of political positions and left it at that :)
        crocowhile 16y ago
        No prob. It's sad to see that Internet Freedom is really being attacked transversely by all political sides, on every continent. Always with the lame excuse of child pornography. I still haven't decide whether this is the Intellectual Property mafia lobbying or perhaps politicians start to be really afraid of the internet.