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The Huffpost did a round-up: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/do

by ant6n 10y ago

The Huffpost did a round-up: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-exam... For example there were proposals to not allow Muslims to immigrate to the US. There was calling Mexicans 'criminals' and 'rapists'. Beating of black people at Trump rallies (which he endorsed). This shows up this night on my twitter feed: "I am at a Trump rally in Manhattan, and thousands are chanting 'We hate Muslims, we hate blacks, we want our great country back'. Disgusting" https://twitter.com/SRowntreeNews/status/796141495573155840 https://twitter.com/SRowntreeNews/status/796141495573155840

cheald 10y ago
I'm a little suspicious of that tweet. Seems like that's the sort of thing that would show up on at least one cell phone video somewhere.
xupybd 10y ago
Fair enough if the stuff with Trump Management Corporation and his action at the casino are correct I'd say it's a fair call he's probably a bit racist. Not allowing Muslims in could be seen as racist, but I don't know that was at the core of what he was trying to do. Don't get me wrong I don't think it's a good idea. But 100% of radical Islamic terrorist are Muslim so banning them would have made people less afraid of the radical Islamic threat the media were hyping up as ISIS was taking hold of Iraq. It's dumb and unfairly treats good honest safe people, but racist is a stretch. That tweet holds little water with me each side has been mud slinging, most of the time it's either BS or an exaggeration.
- foldr 10y ago
  >It's dumb and unfairly treats good honest safe people, but racist is a stretch. That's all racism is. Dumb thoughtless prejudice. It doesn't have horns and a tail.
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BakaRakuda 10y ago
That twitter thing you just linked, did you read the replies under it? I'm not 100% sure of the context. But it looks like it's fake. @SRowntreeNews @WALTBACON Dude that's a fake account. Don't RT that garbage. @aobrien7 good catch, thanks @SRowntreeNews This is fake, @michaeldweiss. Part of disinfo network spreading false rumors. They were very active during Euro soccer riots. -- If thats case aren't you just perpetuating a narrative about Trump supporters being a bunch of racist bigots, when in this case its made up BS???? This is exactly what pissed off a lot of regular people and got them to the polls IMO.
- ant6n 10y ago
  > ...aren't you just perpetuating a narrative... Uh, no. I wrote that something 'showed up on my twitter feed', implying it's unverified. Last night there wasn't a way to verify it, it merely seemed plausible. In any case, the Huffpost article sufficiently makes the case.
- snsr 10y ago
  > If thats case aren't you just perpetuating a narrative about Trump supporters being a bunch of racist bigots You are though.
jahewson 10y ago
I want to agree with you but Muslims are not a race. Neither are Mexicans for that matter. And being Islamaphobic and xenophobic genuinely is different from being racist. Perhaps not very different, but different nonetheless. N.B. The chant you mention was in fact a hoax.
- foldr 10y ago
  It's worth bearing in mind that the US is a much more racialized society than the UK. We don't think of 'Mexican' or 'Muslim' as racial categories. But they de facto are racial categories in the US. That may not be very logical, but then neither are most Trump supporters. How many of them do you think are able to carefully parse the distinctions between 'Latino', 'Mexican' and 'illegal brown person'? And of course, racism very often comes wrapped up in other prejudices which are thought (rightly or wrongly) to be more respectable. All of the groups Trump has targeted are groups that just so happen to consist mostly of people who aren't white. They're the groups that, in the public imagination, are responsible for the loss of an imagined homogenous White America. Trump can't say "I want a white America". But the people who do want this haven't had any difficulty picking up on his hints.
  - DefaultUserHN 10y ago
    >How many of them do you think are able to carefully parse the distinctions between 'Latino', 'Mexican' and 'illegal brown person'? And yet, Trump supporters understands that Mexican and Muslims are not a race. Hence, why they think Trump is not racist. >Trump can't say "I want a white America". But the people who do want this haven't had any difficulty picking up on his hints. Now you're just making up things in your mind about Trump and Trump supporters, and then accusing them of it.
    - foldr 10y ago
      > Trump supporters understands that Mexican and Muslims are not a race. Hence, why they think Trump is not racist. So they think he's xenophobic and religiously bigoted instead? How is that better? >Now you're just making up things in your mind about Trump and Trump supporters, and then accusing them of it. I'm not making up the fact that white supremacists supported Trump.

by ant6n 10y ago

cheald 10y ago

I'm a little suspicious of that tweet. Seems like that's the sort of thing that would show up on at least one cell phone video somewhere.

xupybd 10y ago

Fair enough if the stuff with Trump Management Corporation and his action at the casino are correct I'd say it's a fair call he's probably a bit racist. Not allowing Muslims in could be seen as racist, but I don't know that was at the core of what he was trying to do. Don't get me wrong I don't think it's a good idea. But 100% of radical Islamic terrorist are Muslim so banning them would have made people less afraid of the radical Islamic threat the media were hyping up as ISIS was taking hold of Iraq. It's dumb and unfairly treats good honest safe people, but racist is a stretch. That tweet holds little water with me each side has been mud slinging, most of the time it's either BS or an exaggeration.

foldr 10y ago
>It's dumb and unfairly treats good honest safe people, but racist is a stretch. That's all racism is. Dumb thoughtless prejudice. It doesn't have horns and a tail.
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BakaRakuda 10y ago

That twitter thing you just linked, did you read the replies under it? I'm not 100% sure of the context. But it looks like it's fake. @SRowntreeNews @WALTBACON Dude that's a fake account. Don't RT that garbage. @aobrien7 good catch, thanks @SRowntreeNews This is fake, @michaeldweiss. Part of disinfo network spreading false rumors. They were very active during Euro soccer riots. -- If thats case aren't you just perpetuating a narrative about Trump supporters being a bunch of racist bigots, when in this case its made up BS???? This is exactly what pissed off a lot of regular people and got them to the polls IMO.

ant6n 10y ago
> ...aren't you just perpetuating a narrative... Uh, no. I wrote that something 'showed up on my twitter feed', implying it's unverified. Last night there wasn't a way to verify it, it merely seemed plausible. In any case, the Huffpost article sufficiently makes the case.
snsr 10y ago
> If thats case aren't you just perpetuating a narrative about Trump supporters being a bunch of racist bigots You are though.

jahewson 10y ago

I want to agree with you but Muslims are not a race. Neither are Mexicans for that matter. And being Islamaphobic and xenophobic genuinely is different from being racist. Perhaps not very different, but different nonetheless. N.B. The chant you mention was in fact a hoax.

foldr 10y ago
It's worth bearing in mind that the US is a much more racialized society than the UK. We don't think of 'Mexican' or 'Muslim' as racial categories. But they de facto are racial categories in the US. That may not be very logical, but then neither are most Trump supporters. How many of them do you think are able to carefully parse the distinctions between 'Latino', 'Mexican' and 'illegal brown person'? And of course, racism very often comes wrapped up in other prejudices which are thought (rightly or wrongly) to be more respectable. All of the groups Trump has targeted are groups that just so happen to consist mostly of people who aren't white. They're the groups that, in the public imagination, are responsible for the loss of an imagined homogenous White America. Trump can't say "I want a white America". But the people who do want this haven't had any difficulty picking up on his hints.
- DefaultUserHN 10y ago
  >How many of them do you think are able to carefully parse the distinctions between 'Latino', 'Mexican' and 'illegal brown person'? And yet, Trump supporters understands that Mexican and Muslims are not a race. Hence, why they think Trump is not racist. >Trump can't say "I want a white America". But the people who do want this haven't had any difficulty picking up on his hints. Now you're just making up things in your mind about Trump and Trump supporters, and then accusing them of it.
  - foldr 10y ago
    > Trump supporters understands that Mexican and Muslims are not a race. Hence, why they think Trump is not racist. So they think he's xenophobic and religiously bigoted instead? How is that better? >Now you're just making up things in your mind about Trump and Trump supporters, and then accusing them of it. I'm not making up the fact that white supremacists supported Trump.