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For a cleaner and safer internet (video)

33 points by seven 16y ago

ff0066mote 16y ago
This is definitely a satire, but it's so deadpan that it was hard for me to pick up on until nearing the end of the video. Amazing.
- Hexstream 16y ago
  Somewhere on the internet, someone is taking this seriously.
  - crocowhile 16y ago
    See http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe%27s_Law http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe%27s_Law What I don't understand is what is the position of Cecilia Malmström is.
    - seven 16y ago
      Cecilia Malmström plans to introduce a website blocking system in Europe. This part is sadly no satire.
      - bjelkeman-again 16y ago
        Here is a link with some background http://bendrath.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-try-dialogue-with-eu-commissioner.html http://bendrath.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-try-dialogue-with-eu-... and a link to the actual Proposal for "on combating the sexual abuse, sexual exploitation of children and child pornography, repealing Framework Decision 2004/68/JHA" http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/news/intro/doc/com_2010_94_en.pdf http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/news/intro/doc/com_2010_94_...
      - crocowhile 16y ago
        And these people keep calling themselves "Liberals". Beats me.
        ugh 16y ago
        Liberal is used as a descriptive term in the US while in this case it’s part of a party name. Party names don’t have to – for various historical reasons – reflect the current political positions of a party (think US party names). That’s especially the case in current European democracies with proportional representation. All the parties have very similar positions close to the center, it’s easy for any one party to end up to the “left” or “right” of other parties on any one issue. (Liberal also doesn’t have the same meaning in Europe as in the US. Liberals in Europe are usually socially permissive as well as economically permissive – like Libertarians in the US. But that doesn’t have anything to do with the point you are making – Malmström’s position is not exactly socially permissive.)
        crocowhile 16y ago
        >Liberal also doesn’t have the same meaning in Europe as in the US. I know. I am Italian. >Malmström’s position is not exactly socially permissive. That's the point. There's nothing liberal in censorship.
        ugh 16y ago
        >I know. I am Italian. Oh, sorry. I promise, no more bad assumptions. I should have just written that party names are not a good predictor of political positions and left it at that :)
        crocowhile 16y ago
        No prob. It's sad to see that Internet Freedom is really being attacked transversely by all political sides, on every continent. Always with the lame excuse of child pornography. I still haven't decide whether this is the Intellectual Property mafia lobbying or perhaps politicians start to be really afraid of the internet.
- aik 16y ago
  Yeah. The part about the bill also extending to block political opposition gave it clearly away for me. Possibly hidden motives aren't typically announced in campaigns.
- epochwolf 16y ago
  At 1:14 you see the Ministry of Truth. That tripped me off that. :)
  - tgandrews 16y ago
    I liked the leaking of the list on "ikiwleaks.org"
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ra 16y ago
Sadly this is true in Australia too.
CulturalNgineer 16y ago
Satire for sure... But the link to PayPal is real enough! I wonder if they've taken in any money? And if so, did the people think they were supporting this nutty idea or supporting satire?
jayliew 16y ago
China's internet as the future of the internet for the rest of the world? I don't know if I should laugh or cry.
madmaze 16y ago
I really do hope this is satire. otherwise it would be the beginning of the start of 1984

33 points by seven 16y ago

This is definitely a satire, but it's so deadpan that it was hard for me to pick up on until nearing the end of the video. Amazing.

Hexstream 16y ago
Somewhere on the internet, someone is taking this seriously.
- crocowhile 16y ago
  See http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe%27s_Law http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe%27s_Law What I don't understand is what is the position of Cecilia Malmström is.
  - seven 16y ago
    Cecilia Malmström plans to introduce a website blocking system in Europe. This part is sadly no satire.
    - bjelkeman-again 16y ago
      Here is a link with some background http://bendrath.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-try-dialogue-with-eu-commissioner.html http://bendrath.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-try-dialogue-with-eu-... and a link to the actual Proposal for "on combating the sexual abuse, sexual exploitation of children and child pornography, repealing Framework Decision 2004/68/JHA" http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/news/intro/doc/com_2010_94_en.pdf http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/news/intro/doc/com_2010_94_...
    - crocowhile 16y ago
      And these people keep calling themselves "Liberals". Beats me.
      - ugh 16y ago
        Liberal is used as a descriptive term in the US while in this case it’s part of a party name. Party names don’t have to – for various historical reasons – reflect the current political positions of a party (think US party names). That’s especially the case in current European democracies with proportional representation. All the parties have very similar positions close to the center, it’s easy for any one party to end up to the “left” or “right” of other parties on any one issue. (Liberal also doesn’t have the same meaning in Europe as in the US. Liberals in Europe are usually socially permissive as well as economically permissive – like Libertarians in the US. But that doesn’t have anything to do with the point you are making – Malmström’s position is not exactly socially permissive.)
        crocowhile 16y ago
        >Liberal also doesn’t have the same meaning in Europe as in the US. I know. I am Italian. >Malmström’s position is not exactly socially permissive. That's the point. There's nothing liberal in censorship.
        ugh 16y ago
        >I know. I am Italian. Oh, sorry. I promise, no more bad assumptions. I should have just written that party names are not a good predictor of political positions and left it at that :)
        crocowhile 16y ago
        No prob. It's sad to see that Internet Freedom is really being attacked transversely by all political sides, on every continent. Always with the lame excuse of child pornography. I still haven't decide whether this is the Intellectual Property mafia lobbying or perhaps politicians start to be really afraid of the internet.
aik 16y ago
Yeah. The part about the bill also extending to block political opposition gave it clearly away for me. Possibly hidden motives aren't typically announced in campaigns.
epochwolf 16y ago
At 1:14 you see the Ministry of Truth. That tripped me off that. :)
- tgandrews 16y ago
  I liked the leaking of the list on "ikiwleaks.org"

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ra 16y ago

Sadly this is true in Australia too.

CulturalNgineer 16y ago

Satire for sure... But the link to PayPal is real enough! I wonder if they've taken in any money? And if so, did the people think they were supporting this nutty idea or supporting satire?

jayliew 16y ago

China's internet as the future of the internet for the rest of the world? I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

madmaze 16y ago

I really do hope this is satire. otherwise it would be the beginning of the start of 1984