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FiveThirtyEight linked to this paper on their live blog (http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2016-election-results-coverage/?lpup=12592834#livepress-update-125

by sambe 10y ago

FiveThirtyEight linked to this paper on their live blog (http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2016-election-results-coverage/?lpup=12592834#livepress-update-12592834 http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2016-election-results-c...): http://economics.mit.edu/files/6613 http://economics.mit.edu/files/6613. I find it hard to believe that globalisation has not had substantial effect. Probably both are quite relevant. For me, the problem is more when people think: a) the different-skinned guy down the street is causing this problem; b) voting for right wing guy can stop globalisation. Brexit showed that the people most likely to vote on immigration/kick out foreigners basis were also those with the fewest immigrants in their region. More left-leaning people seem a bit confused about inequality/poverty vs globalisation - inequality globally is on the way down, which is why it's on the way up locally (you're losing to the guy half-way around the world, some of your neighbours are not losing to their equivalents... yet).

thesimpsons1022 10y ago
I saw the former governor of Pennsylvania on msnbc saying about 10 pct of the manufacturing jobs were replaced by trade but the other 90 was from technology.
yomly 10y ago
Meanwhile the gap between the 1% and everyone else widens. Globalization has indeed helped to level global inequality, but this has come at the erosion of the quality of life for ordinary citizens of developed countries, while lining the pockets of the wealthy. The current implementation of globalization is all wrong - one small group are getting more of all the pie while the rest of the world shares a shrinking portion equally amongst themselves.
tdkl 10y ago
> inequality globally is on the way down, which is why it's on the way up locally Globalization helped low and middle class people in developing countries on expense of middle class westerners. But the main catch is that those gains are miniscule, the most went to the rich who profited the most of globalization - hence voting for it heavily. https://www.ft.com/content/13603aa2-0185-11e6-ac98-3c15a1aa2e62 https://www.ft.com/content/13603aa2-0185-11e6-ac98-3c15a1aa2...
zigzigzag 10y ago
Your Brexit stat is a bit misleading. Most likely to care about immigration is directly connected to the rate of change. If you plot the derivative the correlation becomes very clear.

by sambe 10y ago

thesimpsons1022 10y ago

I saw the former governor of Pennsylvania on msnbc saying about 10 pct of the manufacturing jobs were replaced by trade but the other 90 was from technology.

yomly 10y ago

Meanwhile the gap between the 1% and everyone else widens. Globalization has indeed helped to level global inequality, but this has come at the erosion of the quality of life for ordinary citizens of developed countries, while lining the pockets of the wealthy. The current implementation of globalization is all wrong - one small group are getting more of all the pie while the rest of the world shares a shrinking portion equally amongst themselves.

tdkl 10y ago

> inequality globally is on the way down, which is why it's on the way up locally Globalization helped low and middle class people in developing countries on expense of middle class westerners. But the main catch is that those gains are miniscule, the most went to the rich who profited the most of globalization - hence voting for it heavily. https://www.ft.com/content/13603aa2-0185-11e6-ac98-3c15a1aa2e62 https://www.ft.com/content/13603aa2-0185-11e6-ac98-3c15a1aa2...

zigzigzag 10y ago

Your Brexit stat is a bit misleading. Most likely to care about immigration is directly connected to the rate of change. If you plot the derivative the correlation becomes very clear.