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> In that way, he's managed to get an extremely energetic white vote. Does this mean the majority of Americans are secretly inherently racist? Note: I am not

> In that way, he's managed to get an extremely energetic white vote. Does this mean the majority of Americans are secretly inherently racist? Note: I am not from the US and this a genuine question and no offense meant.

hueving 10y ago
This is what Hillary supporters would like to portray about any Trump voter, and it's frankly the reason they got such a surprise. They failed to even attempt to understand why people voted for Trump. Just wrote everyone off as racists and bigots.
- CalChris 10y ago
  Racists, bigots and misogynists. You left out misogynists. Well, that and y'all have got a serious hardon for Putin.
- throwaway-hn123 10y ago
  > Just wrote everyone off as racists and bigots. Not everyone who voted for Trump is a racist and a bigot. BUT, anyone who is a racist and a bigot voted for Trump.
  - umanwizard 10y ago
    Maybe true but how is that relevant to GP's point?
    - throwaway-hn123 10y ago
      It's pretty obvious. I'm sure you can figure it out for yourself.
  - hueving 10y ago
    Cute sound bite, but there is no proof of it, unless you are subscribing to the 'only whites are racist' definition of racism. Anyone who believes in quotas for hiring is a racist/sexist and they likely voted for Hillary.
    - throwaway-hn123 10y ago
      Is there a reason you seem to be taking my comment so personally?
- ant6n 10y ago
  > This is what Hillary supporters would like to portray about any Trump voter... Seems like it's the other way round: people who views Trump as the candidate of racists end up supporting Hillary.
codeonfire 10y ago
Of course they fucking are. Why pretend at this point. All pretense is gone.
- gph 10y ago
  I think we knew even before this that everyone is somewhat racist, and I mean everyone. This isn't just a white people thing. Most people harbor what might be considered racist sentiments. How we should handle this moving forward is an open question. Should people never see race? Or is some level of putting your own race first acceptable? It's not like white people are the only ones voting in a singular block. Most of what we've heard in the past couple decades of elections is analysts talking about how candidates can win the black or latino vote. They might now be saying the same thing about rural whites moving forward.
Jgrubb 10y ago
> Does this mean the majority of Americans are secretly inherently racist? It is my opinion that all humans are inherently racist and that the only way to overcome it is to first acknowledge it. The majority of humans (and therefore Americans) aren't self aware enough to admit to themselves that they are racist and so the racism within lives on. This is just something I've been pondering on and isn't a fully formed argument, but it seems to me that a large number of conflicts around the globe can be boiled down to "racist rednecks" trying to kill people that aren't like them.

hueving 10y ago

This is what Hillary supporters would like to portray about any Trump voter, and it's frankly the reason they got such a surprise. They failed to even attempt to understand why people voted for Trump. Just wrote everyone off as racists and bigots.

CalChris 10y ago
Racists, bigots and misogynists. You left out misogynists. Well, that and y'all have got a serious hardon for Putin.
throwaway-hn123 10y ago
> Just wrote everyone off as racists and bigots. Not everyone who voted for Trump is a racist and a bigot. BUT, anyone who is a racist and a bigot voted for Trump.
- umanwizard 10y ago
  Maybe true but how is that relevant to GP's point?
  - throwaway-hn123 10y ago
    It's pretty obvious. I'm sure you can figure it out for yourself.
- hueving 10y ago
  Cute sound bite, but there is no proof of it, unless you are subscribing to the 'only whites are racist' definition of racism. Anyone who believes in quotas for hiring is a racist/sexist and they likely voted for Hillary.
  - throwaway-hn123 10y ago
    Is there a reason you seem to be taking my comment so personally?
ant6n 10y ago
> This is what Hillary supporters would like to portray about any Trump voter... Seems like it's the other way round: people who views Trump as the candidate of racists end up supporting Hillary.

codeonfire 10y ago

Of course they fucking are. Why pretend at this point. All pretense is gone.

gph 10y ago
I think we knew even before this that everyone is somewhat racist, and I mean everyone. This isn't just a white people thing. Most people harbor what might be considered racist sentiments. How we should handle this moving forward is an open question. Should people never see race? Or is some level of putting your own race first acceptable? It's not like white people are the only ones voting in a singular block. Most of what we've heard in the past couple decades of elections is analysts talking about how candidates can win the black or latino vote. They might now be saying the same thing about rural whites moving forward.

Jgrubb 10y ago

> Does this mean the majority of Americans are secretly inherently racist? It is my opinion that all humans are inherently racist and that the only way to overcome it is to first acknowledge it. The majority of humans (and therefore Americans) aren't self aware enough to admit to themselves that they are racist and so the racism within lives on. This is just something I've been pondering on and isn't a fully formed argument, but it seems to me that a large number of conflicts around the globe can be boiled down to "racist rednecks" trying to kill people that aren't like them.