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Upper Midwest? Wasn't it just a question of Florida and North Carolina?
by thomasahle 10y ago
Upper Midwest? Wasn't it just a question of Florida and North Carolina?
- xienze 10y agoNot exactly. He needed those states assuming he didn't win WI, MI, PA, OH. Which he did. Trump blew it out the water.
- sho_hn 10y agoOhio, Pennsylvania, etc. are traditionally Democratic states, but it's a region Trump spent a lot of time targeting with anti-globalist messages around the decline of domestic industry. The predicted safe margin in the other direction, the narrow win, the demographic stats, the issues on the table ... it's all highly reminiscent of how I experienced Brexit.
- maxerickson 10y agoMichigan and Wisconsin were thought to lean Clinton and went Trump. Ohio and Pennsylvania were considered tossups.
- Kadin 10y agoFlorida and North Carolina were considered competitive or "tossup" states, while several of the upper Midwestern states were considered fairly safe Democrat territories, probably because they were historically dominated by unionized manufacturing workers. That latter assumption has proved to be very unsafe, and it's become apparent that many of those formerly-reliable Democrat voters have switched sides, at least for this election.
- Godel_unicode 10y agoThe point is, if she had carried Pennsylvania and Florida, she would have won. The mid-west states she lost don't make up that gap.