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You don't get to claim the moral high ground and use the tactics of the opposition at the same time.
by oldmanjay 10y ago
You don't get to claim the moral high ground and use the tactics of the opposition at the same time.
- M_Grey 10y agoThe only claim of a moral highground here is implicit in that shitpost of an article.
- venomsnake 10y agoThe article gave advanced warning of 6 months. That nobody heeded ...
- jessaustin 10y agoIn fairness, there were lots of advance warnings of why Trump would lose as well. Someone had to be right...
- andars 10y agoYes, the article isn't very good. In essence, it reverses the direction of "holier than thou". However, it raises an excellent point. The United States is not going to get anywhere if half the country looks down on the other half as a bunch of plebs, and in response the "plebs" disdain the elites. (I understand that this is a gross simplification, but I have seen this attitude often enough that it is significant). For me, the article was about the need for mutual respect.
- M_Grey 10y agoThere will be no mutual respect here; the schism that began with Reagan, and widened with W. just ripped wide open today. The only thing coming out of this is going to be deepening resentment, and incredible economic hardship. Ironically, the people who are going to take it most directly in the tuckus, are the people who voted Trump.
- majormajor 10y agoIf large parts of your community are already on unemployment, disability, and/or heroin, are you focused on the downside risk or looking for anyone willing to even pretend to have a new plan?
- andars 10y agoI didn't say this election will do anything positive. I just said that we should strive for mutual respect.
- ant6n 10y agoI think the problem is that the "plebs" don't just hate the elites, they also hate minorities and people who don't have their religion; and they have big issues with patriarchy and sexism. That's why the minorities and the "elites" don't respect them. In the end "the left" doesn't care if they are poor or uneducated and whatnot, they'd still embrace them. But refusing to accept basic democratic ideals of equality and freedom of religion and separation of church and state is always going to be a problem.
- reitanqild 10y ago> the "plebs" don't just hate the elites, they also hate minorities and people who don't have their religion Can you stop telling who other people hate? At the moment you are the one who spreads hate.
- oldmanjay 10y agoI replied to a post, not to the article.
- majormajor 10y agoIt's even more pragmatic than that: regardless of how Republicans act, if your strategy is a losing one you might want to think twice about it. Clinton largely campaigned on shame and fear, and the midwest felt too left behind to care about that.
- vacri 10y agoWhere did I claim the moral high ground? I was just pointing out that the article is one-eyed. I don't even live in America, so it's not like I consider myself an American liberal. In fact, in my country, the Liberal Party are the conservatives, and being centre-left, I wouldn't identify with them either.