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Honestly it's impressive -- how do you lose to Donald Trump? Failed businessman and mediocre reality TV star. You've gotta be pretty good at what you do to fail

Honestly it's impressive -- how do you lose to Donald Trump? Failed businessman and mediocre reality TV star. You've gotta be pretty good at what you do to fail over this guy.

WalterSear 10y ago
By misunderstanding your audience.
thecopy 10y ago
Apparently, being corrupt, mishandling classified information and lying on many occasions is enought.
- giarc 10y ago
  To be devil's advocate, Trump lies all the time. Has he ever handled classified information? Are you confident he will handle it properly? Is he corrupt? Probably evidence that he's done some bad stuff (not paying contractors). So perhaps they are both failures and both the same, Hillary just did it on a bigger (more important) stage.
  - 6nf 10y ago
    Sure, Trump may be corrupt, but Hillary is definitely corrupt.
    - codecamper 10y ago
      Hillary. Corrupt? Ugh.
  - gozur88 10y ago
    So the choice was between someone known to be corrupt and someone about whom we have no evidence of corruption?
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xname2 10y ago
By really believe your opponent is simply a "Failed businessman and mediocre reality TV star."?
hellodevnull 10y ago
I understand that this place is 99% liberal and that you went as far as to petition to kick Peter Thiel out because of his trump support, but please realize most Americans agree with trump. That's how you lose to him. Make jokes all you want, we won.
- untog 10y ago
  > most Americans agree with trump This is the problem, though - there's no data that agrees with you. Nor is there any that disagrees with you. Because we've seen today that all the polling data was a load of complete nonsense. It could be that Trump won because most Americans agree with him. The popular vote totals would suggest this is not the case. Rather, a majority of Americans in swing states either agree with Trump enough, or disagree with Clinton enough, to vote they way they did. It's going to take a long time to get to the bottom of which combination of those factors is what.
- sjm 10y ago
  "You" won four years of someone completely inexperienced in politics and foreign affairs to represent your country on the world stage. The rest of the world is cringing. I would love to know what you actually agree with Trump on, as it's been shown again and again Trump doesn't really say anything of substance. Exhibit A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFo_BV-UzI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFo_BV-UzI
mtgx 10y ago
Through a history of corruption, self-created scandals, elitism (with an arrogant sense of "you can't touch me"), and a track record of terrible political decisions. That almost ought to do it. Throw in a stone-like personality in the mix, against a more charismatic character that simulates real understanding of the people, and it should seal the deal.
random_upvoter 10y ago
Maybe it's time to conclude that Trump is a brilliant politician?
- flukus 10y ago
  He did see something that the rest of the political class seems to have completely missed.
untog 10y ago
That's selective reading of what Trump is. He's incredibly media savvy, and he wasn't ashamed of playing to people's base instincts (including bigotry) in order to win them over. Clinton was a fine candidate to beat Trump, but she wasn't the candidate that matched the mood of the electorate. It's worth pointing out that the popular vote remains incredibly close, and Clinton may win it yet.

Honestly it's impressive -- how do you lose to Donald Trump? Failed businessman and mediocre reality TV star. You've gotta be pretty good at what you do to fail over this guy.

WalterSear 10y ago

By misunderstanding your audience.

thecopy 10y ago

Apparently, being corrupt, mishandling classified information and lying on many occasions is enought.

giarc 10y ago
To be devil's advocate, Trump lies all the time. Has he ever handled classified information? Are you confident he will handle it properly? Is he corrupt? Probably evidence that he's done some bad stuff (not paying contractors). So perhaps they are both failures and both the same, Hillary just did it on a bigger (more important) stage.
- 6nf 10y ago
  Sure, Trump may be corrupt, but Hillary is definitely corrupt.
  - codecamper 10y ago
    Hillary. Corrupt? Ugh.
- gozur88 10y ago
  So the choice was between someone known to be corrupt and someone about whom we have no evidence of corruption?

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xname2 10y ago

By really believe your opponent is simply a "Failed businessman and mediocre reality TV star."?

hellodevnull 10y ago

I understand that this place is 99% liberal and that you went as far as to petition to kick Peter Thiel out because of his trump support, but please realize most Americans agree with trump. That's how you lose to him. Make jokes all you want, we won.

untog 10y ago
> most Americans agree with trump This is the problem, though - there's no data that agrees with you. Nor is there any that disagrees with you. Because we've seen today that all the polling data was a load of complete nonsense. It could be that Trump won because most Americans agree with him. The popular vote totals would suggest this is not the case. Rather, a majority of Americans in swing states either agree with Trump enough, or disagree with Clinton enough, to vote they way they did. It's going to take a long time to get to the bottom of which combination of those factors is what.
sjm 10y ago
"You" won four years of someone completely inexperienced in politics and foreign affairs to represent your country on the world stage. The rest of the world is cringing. I would love to know what you actually agree with Trump on, as it's been shown again and again Trump doesn't really say anything of substance. Exhibit A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFo_BV-UzI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFo_BV-UzI

mtgx 10y ago

Through a history of corruption, self-created scandals, elitism (with an arrogant sense of "you can't touch me"), and a track record of terrible political decisions. That almost ought to do it. Throw in a stone-like personality in the mix, against a more charismatic character that simulates real understanding of the people, and it should seal the deal.

random_upvoter 10y ago

Maybe it's time to conclude that Trump is a brilliant politician?

flukus 10y ago
He did see something that the rest of the political class seems to have completely missed.

untog 10y ago

That's selective reading of what Trump is. He's incredibly media savvy, and he wasn't ashamed of playing to people's base instincts (including bigotry) in order to win them over. Clinton was a fine candidate to beat Trump, but she wasn't the candidate that matched the mood of the electorate. It's worth pointing out that the popular vote remains incredibly close, and Clinton may win it yet.