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The plebeians have spoken! Let us wait for our Gaius Marius, Gracchus brothers, and Sulla.
by yarou 10y ago
The plebeians have spoken!
Let us wait for our Gaius Marius, Gracchus brothers, and Sulla.
- gozur88 10y agoSulla was an Optimate.
- unixhero 10y agoWhat is that? Roman history? (Genuine question)
- vondur 10y agoAn Optimate was a supporter of the Senatorial class who were benefiting from the massive wealth flowing into Rome after conquering the Mediterranean area. This created a huge problem after 100 of thousands of slaves were brought back to Italy and eliminated the small Roman farmers. The populares took advantage of this, but it ended up in civil strife and war for about 80 years.
- gozur88 10y agoThe Optimates were members of the ruling class of ancient Rome. They were the aristocracy - old blue-blood families with seats in the Senate. The history gets a little muddy since there were politicians from that class who embraced populism, but Sulla wasn't one of them.
- dredmorbius 10y agoYes. A good overview from A.H.M. Jones, Augustus, from the first chapter, "The Breakdown of the Republic": https://plus.google.com/104092656004159577193/posts/U7mLJYGyGH3?sfc=true https://plus.google.com/104092656004159577193/posts/U7mLJYGy... (The book is brief but the remainder is about as similarly dense as this overview -- if you're not already familiar with Roman history and particulars, there's not quite enough context to grab hold of. There are better, longer biographies which should be easier reading.)
- jessaustin 10y agoHasn't Trump been an "optimate" his entire life?
- AnimalMuppet 10y agoYes. But politically, he's running as a populare. This happened in Rome as well - senators would take a populare position on a particular issue, even though they were optimates.
- dba7dba 10y agoDang, that kind of "I'm smarter than you smugness" is what cost Clinton and DNS the election.