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Are there any country outside U.S. that pay more for software job? I've looked before, but I didn't find any, so you'll have to figure out a way to quantify qu

by pcurve 10y ago

Are there any country outside U.S. that pay more for software job? I've looked before, but I didn't find any, so you'll have to figure out a way to quantify quality of live improvement in dollar figures.

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rtpg 10y ago
you probably won't find a better way than in the US to get a lot of money. But it's possible to be a software engineer with a good salary abroad. If you're looking at maximizing dollars, it's hard. But no amount of salary in the Bay Area will give you decent public transit.
jiahen 10y ago
most of the Asia country has less personal income tax. So that will cover the salary difference.
- toomuchtodo 10y ago
  You still pay US income taxes while an expat as long as you have your citizenship. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/u-s-citizens-and-resident-aliens-abroad https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/u-s-... "Your worldwide income is subject to U.S. income tax, regardless of where you reside." Your best scenario is to work remotely for a US company while living in a low cost of living country.
  - toephu2 10y ago
    *tax free up to 100k https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/fore...
  - chillydawg 10y ago
    And many countries have a double tax treaty with the US, such as the UK, whereby you end up only paying one load of tax.
  - cr1895 10y ago
    >You still pay US income taxes while an expat as long as you have your citizenship. Misleading. You are compelled to file taxes in the US. It's quite unlikely that an American living abroad must actually pauy tax on foreign-earned income. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/fore...
thejosh 10y ago
Australia is pretty good if you live in a good spot.
- erklik 10y ago
  Yet is extremely more expensive in terms of cost of living. It cheaper to fly to Los Angeles, buy Adobe Suite ( the old one when discs were still around) and arrive back to Australia rather than buying it in Australia.
acveilleux 10y ago
There's tons of jobs in Canada that pay better then software jobs in North Dakota... But in pure dollar amount, you're not going to beat a Google or Facebook job in SV. Best you could do is work remotely for an SV company. That said, remember that if you're an actual american citizen, they will tax your foreign income and a programmer with a lot of experience can hit revenues where they actually have to remit money to the IRS in addition to the cost of compliance (which can itself be significant.)
PeterisP 10y ago
Expect to be paid less but that money will go further - e.g. if comparing with Silicon Valley, there are many places worldwide where you'll be able to afford a much larger, nicer home and more services while earning a much smaller dollar amount. In general, there's a scale/tradeoff of this, and California is on one extreme of that scale - there won't be any country that will pay even more, with the possible exception of some Saudi contracts or similar niches.

by pcurve 10y ago

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rtpg 10y ago

you probably won't find a better way than in the US to get a lot of money. But it's possible to be a software engineer with a good salary abroad. If you're looking at maximizing dollars, it's hard. But no amount of salary in the Bay Area will give you decent public transit.

jiahen 10y ago

most of the Asia country has less personal income tax. So that will cover the salary difference.

toomuchtodo 10y ago
You still pay US income taxes while an expat as long as you have your citizenship. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/u-s-citizens-and-resident-aliens-abroad https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/u-s-... "Your worldwide income is subject to U.S. income tax, regardless of where you reside." Your best scenario is to work remotely for a US company while living in a low cost of living country.
- toephu2 10y ago
  *tax free up to 100k https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/fore...
- chillydawg 10y ago
  And many countries have a double tax treaty with the US, such as the UK, whereby you end up only paying one load of tax.
- cr1895 10y ago
  >You still pay US income taxes while an expat as long as you have your citizenship. Misleading. You are compelled to file taxes in the US. It's quite unlikely that an American living abroad must actually pauy tax on foreign-earned income. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/fore...

thejosh 10y ago

Australia is pretty good if you live in a good spot.

erklik 10y ago
Yet is extremely more expensive in terms of cost of living. It cheaper to fly to Los Angeles, buy Adobe Suite ( the old one when discs were still around) and arrive back to Australia rather than buying it in Australia.

acveilleux 10y ago

There's tons of jobs in Canada that pay better then software jobs in North Dakota... But in pure dollar amount, you're not going to beat a Google or Facebook job in SV. Best you could do is work remotely for an SV company. That said, remember that if you're an actual american citizen, they will tax your foreign income and a programmer with a lot of experience can hit revenues where they actually have to remit money to the IRS in addition to the cost of compliance (which can itself be significant.)

PeterisP 10y ago

Expect to be paid less but that money will go further - e.g. if comparing with Silicon Valley, there are many places worldwide where you'll be able to afford a much larger, nicer home and more services while earning a much smaller dollar amount. In general, there's a scale/tradeoff of this, and California is on one extreme of that scale - there won't be any country that will pay even more, with the possible exception of some Saudi contracts or similar niches.