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I can't believe this is the first time I've seen someone NOT compare Trump to Hitler.

by xienze 10y ago

vkou 10y ago
I have always felt that Mussolini was a more apt comparison. For one thing, nobody's ever heard of Trump shout himself hoarse about Lebensraum. (And without Hitler's aggression, it's highly doubtful that Mussolini would have gotten himself involved in a European war.)
- teddyh 10y ago
  “Yes, he rejects modernism, appeals to a selective populism, and espouses a cult of machismo.” http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comic/the-important-thing http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comic/the-important-thing
  - paganel 10y ago
    For what it's worth I find the Mussolinian architecture extremely modernist and quite interesting (https://www.google.ro/search?q=architettura+fascista+italia&client=firefox-b-ab&biw=1920&bih=897&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi3uLK34ZvQAhXBchQKHfT2AhMQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=_ https://www.google.ro/search?q=architettura+fascista+italia&...). Whenever I visit Italy I always find some interesting building or public-works structure from the Mussolini era which I photograph.
Florin_Andrei 10y ago
> I can't believe this is the first time I've seen someone NOT compare Trump to Hitler. What those two have in common is they fit the definition of the word 'demagogue' 100%, point by point. Along with many, many others (numerous political figures in Europe in the '30s, Huey Long, senator McCarthy, etc). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue Hitler, however, was far more effective than everyone on that list. Well, at least so far. But even so, Hitler's charisma and ability to emotionally be a puppet master to enormous masses while spewing bullshit appears to be unparalleled in history. Based on what we've seen so far, the Berlusconi comparison seems best. Knock on wood.
- baby 10y ago
  > Hitler's charisma and ability to emotionally be a puppet master to enormous masses while spewing bullshit appears to be unparalleled in history. This seems a bit broad.
  - Florin_Andrei 10y ago
    Well, the metric I was using was the effects on the whole world. Perhaps there are better metrics than that, I don't know.

I can't believe this is the first time I've seen someone NOT compare Trump to Hitler.

by xienze 10y ago

I can't believe this is the first time I've seen someone NOT compare Trump to Hitler.

vkou 10y ago

I have always felt that Mussolini was a more apt comparison. For one thing, nobody's ever heard of Trump shout himself hoarse about Lebensraum. (And without Hitler's aggression, it's highly doubtful that Mussolini would have gotten himself involved in a European war.)

teddyh 10y ago
“Yes, he rejects modernism, appeals to a selective populism, and espouses a cult of machismo.” http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comic/the-important-thing http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comic/the-important-thing
- paganel 10y ago
  For what it's worth I find the Mussolinian architecture extremely modernist and quite interesting (https://www.google.ro/search?q=architettura+fascista+italia&client=firefox-b-ab&biw=1920&bih=897&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi3uLK34ZvQAhXBchQKHfT2AhMQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=_ https://www.google.ro/search?q=architettura+fascista+italia&...). Whenever I visit Italy I always find some interesting building or public-works structure from the Mussolini era which I photograph.

Florin_Andrei 10y ago

> I can't believe this is the first time I've seen someone NOT compare Trump to Hitler. What those two have in common is they fit the definition of the word 'demagogue' 100%, point by point. Along with many, many others (numerous political figures in Europe in the '30s, Huey Long, senator McCarthy, etc). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue Hitler, however, was far more effective than everyone on that list. Well, at least so far. But even so, Hitler's charisma and ability to emotionally be a puppet master to enormous masses while spewing bullshit appears to be unparalleled in history. Based on what we've seen so far, the Berlusconi comparison seems best. Knock on wood.

baby 10y ago
> Hitler's charisma and ability to emotionally be a puppet master to enormous masses while spewing bullshit appears to be unparalleled in history. This seems a bit broad.
- Florin_Andrei 10y ago
  Well, the metric I was using was the effects on the whole world. Perhaps there are better metrics than that, I don't know.