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Corp tax in Ontario is 15% and free health care. Dev pay also comparable. Come over :)

by nvk 10y ago

pmiller2 10y ago
Comparable to where? Not the Bay Area. I interviewed for a remote position with a Canadian company a while back, and they weren't able to pay me anywhere near a market rate Bay Area salary.
- nvk 10y ago
  Bay area only pays more because 90% of your salary goes to rent.
  - maerF0x0 10y ago
    if 90% of your salary is going to rent, you're either taking a ton of equity or terrible at negotiating.
    - trymas 10y ago
      it was sarcasm.
      - nvk 10y ago
        yes
ams6110 10y ago
Sure. Budweiser is $50/case and gas is $4/gal. How's health care free again?
- nvk 10y ago
  Can't compete on cheap booze in Ontario (fancy stuff is comparable).. Everything else is.
- echlebek 10y ago
  It's free if you take transit and don't drink shitty beer.
fgandiya 10y ago
Cool, how welcoming are they to non Western immigrants? And also recent graduates?
- nvk 10y ago
  Very welcoming. I was born in Brazil, being here over a decade.
- ant6n 10y ago
  60% of Toronto is foreign born.
- middleclick 10y ago
  Toronto is really diverse, and a very welcoming city.
- a3camero 10y ago
  My wife is a non-Western immigrant (English is her third language). She says she's never faced any discrimination and many people assumes she was born here (in Toronto). Non-white people are very common and very accepted in Toronto.
bibstha 10y ago
What's the average tech salary for a 5 years+ experienced programmer (ruby, golang, etc)?
- miguelrochefort 10y ago
  60k CAD
  - deleted 10y ago
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  - allengeorge 10y ago
    It is definitely not 60K. I made more than that way back when I was a new grad.
    - miguelrochefort 10y ago
      Congratulations.
- soggypopsicle 10y ago
  80-90k, my first job out of school was ~75k.
run4yourlives2 10y ago
I'm Canadian. Dev pay is not comparable unless your margin of error is literally tens of thousands of dollars.
- kspaans 10y ago
  Cost of living in Toronto is roughly 30% cheaper than SF: https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/comparison/san-francisco/toronto https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/comparison/san-fra...? So a 15-20% salary reduction probably puts you ahead.
- nvk 10y ago
  Every good dev I know makes 100K+
- nvk 10y ago
  Every good dev I know makes 100K+ and cost of living is much less.
- nvk 10y ago
  Every good dev I know makes 100K+, some make 150K+ and cost of living is much less.

Corp tax in Ontario is 15% and free health care. Dev pay also comparable. Come over :)

by nvk 10y ago

Corp tax in Ontario is 15% and free health care. Dev pay also comparable. Come over :)

Comparable to where? Not the Bay Area. I interviewed for a remote position with a Canadian company a while back, and they weren't able to pay me anywhere near a market rate Bay Area salary.

nvk 10y ago
Bay area only pays more because 90% of your salary goes to rent.
- maerF0x0 10y ago
  if 90% of your salary is going to rent, you're either taking a ton of equity or terrible at negotiating.
  - trymas 10y ago
    it was sarcasm.
    - nvk 10y ago
      yes

ams6110 10y ago

Sure. Budweiser is $50/case and gas is $4/gal. How's health care free again?

nvk 10y ago
Can't compete on cheap booze in Ontario (fancy stuff is comparable).. Everything else is.
echlebek 10y ago
It's free if you take transit and don't drink shitty beer.

fgandiya 10y ago

Cool, how welcoming are they to non Western immigrants? And also recent graduates?

nvk 10y ago
Very welcoming. I was born in Brazil, being here over a decade.
ant6n 10y ago
60% of Toronto is foreign born.
middleclick 10y ago
Toronto is really diverse, and a very welcoming city.
a3camero 10y ago
My wife is a non-Western immigrant (English is her third language). She says she's never faced any discrimination and many people assumes she was born here (in Toronto). Non-white people are very common and very accepted in Toronto.

bibstha 10y ago

What's the average tech salary for a 5 years+ experienced programmer (ruby, golang, etc)?

miguelrochefort 10y ago
60k CAD
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- allengeorge 10y ago
  It is definitely not 60K. I made more than that way back when I was a new grad.
  - miguelrochefort 10y ago
    Congratulations.
soggypopsicle 10y ago
80-90k, my first job out of school was ~75k.

run4yourlives2 10y ago

I'm Canadian. Dev pay is not comparable unless your margin of error is literally tens of thousands of dollars.

kspaans 10y ago
Cost of living in Toronto is roughly 30% cheaper than SF: https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/comparison/san-francisco/toronto https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/comparison/san-fra...? So a 15-20% salary reduction probably puts you ahead.
nvk 10y ago
Every good dev I know makes 100K+
nvk 10y ago
Every good dev I know makes 100K+ and cost of living is much less.
nvk 10y ago
Every good dev I know makes 100K+, some make 150K+ and cost of living is much less.