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Sorry, I don't get it. Which part is the name calling? I also am not sure what you mean by 'fellow citizens' or 'the left'. I'm not American. And Hillary Clint

by ant6n 10y ago

Sorry, I don't get it. Which part is the name calling? I also am not sure what you mean by 'fellow citizens' or 'the left'. I'm not American. And Hillary Clinton is not a left candidate, she's centre-right.

flukus 10y ago
The racist part was the name calling. The post overall sounded derisive. The people your criticizing want job security, not lynchings.
- ant6n 10y ago
  Are you saying Trump is not a racist? Are you saying that it's not true that many Trump supporters are openly racist? Are you saying this is not racism: https://twitter.com/SRowntreeNews/status/796141495573155840 https://twitter.com/SRowntreeNews/status/796141495573155840 ? Calling somebody out as racist is not name-calling if it's true. I feel like the US has become this bizarre place where it's okay to be racist and sexist, but if you call people out for it you're the bad guy.
  - coderdude 10y ago
    Racism and sexism are indeed alive and well: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=white%20male&sort=byPopularity&prefix&page=0&dateRange=pastWeek&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=white%20male&sort=byPopularity... The first and second hit are from you, humorously enough.
    - flukus 10y ago
      Fivethirtyeight had a funny post earlier today mentions how white males are now voting as a minority block.
  - flukus 10y ago
    Many are, but so are many (assumed) Clinton supporters: http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/27/berkeley-activists-block-white-people-using-campus-entrance-protest-racism/ http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/27/berkeley-activists-block... And as I said elsewhere, many of Trumps votes are coming from people that voted for Obama last time. Do you really think they are racist?
    - ant6n 10y ago
      (assumed)
  - reitanqild 10y ago
    Quoting you: > (, racist) working class folks You didn't say Trump was, you tried to smear the whole working class or at least the ones that voted for Trump. I don't like Trump, I just personally refuse to think that 50% of Americans are stupid racists.
    - ant6n 10y ago
      I put the racist in parenthesis, so clearly I don't mean all of them. But I think a lot of the sort of poor/working class Mid-Western people are in fact racist. If you listen to some reports of Trump rallies; or if you listen to how a lot of these people viewed the 'black lives matter' movement, I don't think its inaccurate. Or if you look at the very strong undercurrent of racism that permeates all of the US. Racism has been shamed for many decades, and Trump made it 'in' again. Racism was a major issue in this election. The SNL's 'black jeopardy' skit was surprisingly observant in this respect [1]. I didn't expect people on HN to just dismiss it like that. Or completely ignoring an argument about how people cutting their nose to spite their face, because it included the word 'racist'. It's kind of ironic, like I tickled somebody's PC funny bone, when Trump's campagin was all about the freedom to say whatever you want. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUe0xy-yidk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUe0xy-yidk
RandomOpinion 10y ago
My apologies, I had assumed that you were American. Since this is a thread on an American presidential election, on the American political spectrum, Mrs. Clinton would be considered to be on the left or center-left.

by ant6n 10y ago

flukus 10y ago

The racist part was the name calling. The post overall sounded derisive. The people your criticizing want job security, not lynchings.

ant6n 10y ago
Are you saying Trump is not a racist? Are you saying that it's not true that many Trump supporters are openly racist? Are you saying this is not racism: https://twitter.com/SRowntreeNews/status/796141495573155840 https://twitter.com/SRowntreeNews/status/796141495573155840 ? Calling somebody out as racist is not name-calling if it's true. I feel like the US has become this bizarre place where it's okay to be racist and sexist, but if you call people out for it you're the bad guy.
- coderdude 10y ago
  Racism and sexism are indeed alive and well: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=white%20male&sort=byPopularity&prefix&page=0&dateRange=pastWeek&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=white%20male&sort=byPopularity... The first and second hit are from you, humorously enough.
  - flukus 10y ago
    Fivethirtyeight had a funny post earlier today mentions how white males are now voting as a minority block.
- flukus 10y ago
  Many are, but so are many (assumed) Clinton supporters: http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/27/berkeley-activists-block-white-people-using-campus-entrance-protest-racism/ http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/27/berkeley-activists-block... And as I said elsewhere, many of Trumps votes are coming from people that voted for Obama last time. Do you really think they are racist?
  - ant6n 10y ago
    (assumed)
- reitanqild 10y ago
  Quoting you: > (, racist) working class folks You didn't say Trump was, you tried to smear the whole working class or at least the ones that voted for Trump. I don't like Trump, I just personally refuse to think that 50% of Americans are stupid racists.
  - ant6n 10y ago
    I put the racist in parenthesis, so clearly I don't mean all of them. But I think a lot of the sort of poor/working class Mid-Western people are in fact racist. If you listen to some reports of Trump rallies; or if you listen to how a lot of these people viewed the 'black lives matter' movement, I don't think its inaccurate. Or if you look at the very strong undercurrent of racism that permeates all of the US. Racism has been shamed for many decades, and Trump made it 'in' again. Racism was a major issue in this election. The SNL's 'black jeopardy' skit was surprisingly observant in this respect [1]. I didn't expect people on HN to just dismiss it like that. Or completely ignoring an argument about how people cutting their nose to spite their face, because it included the word 'racist'. It's kind of ironic, like I tickled somebody's PC funny bone, when Trump's campagin was all about the freedom to say whatever you want. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUe0xy-yidk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUe0xy-yidk

RandomOpinion 10y ago

My apologies, I had assumed that you were American. Since this is a thread on an American presidential election, on the American political spectrum, Mrs. Clinton would be considered to be on the left or center-left.