> The same can be said about a "trusted" OS like say Qubes OS, with untrusted hardware, like Intel's. Actually, that's what the developers of Qubes OS and other

> The same can be said about a "trusted" OS like say Qubes OS, with untrusted hardware, like Intel's. Actually, that's what the developers of Qubes OS and other "free" operating systems have said as well. If you're really paranoid, go for open hardware supported by libreboot [0] or the Talos Workstation and run a hardened "free" OS. However, I don't think Intel ME (or similar firmware in AMD and ARM) has ever been used to compromise user security and privacy. The threat probably exists and is real but has it ever been exploited? On the other hand, I suspect that there is no lack of zero-days and other vulnerabilities for iOS and Android. [0] https://libreboot.org/ https://libreboot.org/ [1] https://www.crowdsupply.com/raptor-computing-systems/talos-secure-workstation https://www.crowdsupply.com/raptor-computing-systems/talos-s...