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Yeah, same here. Except then messages arrive out of order, duplicate, for another session, "bad encrypted message", or simply take minutes to deliver. I don't u

Yeah, same here. Except then messages arrive out of order, duplicate, for another session, "bad encrypted message", or simply take minutes to deliver. I don't understand why duplicates are even possible. So while I'm able to get people to try it out or use it for "sensitive" stuff, these issues really hurt usage and I'll just end up reverting to SMS once a day at least. Edit: I don't want to sound to be complaining too much. I love Signal and try to convert people. Just hard when basics mess up. And it's also frustrating because on the surface some of this stuff doesn't make sense.

moyta 10y ago
I experienced this with TextSecure over a year ago, but since then it has been smooth sailing outside of minor outages (10hrs a month), since the outages are less than the regional outages we've been experiencing on AT&T and T-Mobile for SMS as of late (20 to 30hrs a month). Calling has also improved quite a bit, for Signal enabled contacts I've been using it exclusively for the past 9 months, I can be driving for an hour without call quality issues and maintain a stable call reliably.
- JshWright 10y ago
  Is the codec choice any better? The last time I tried to use it the audio quality was awful.
  - lorenzhs 10y ago
    I use it for calling when abroad, and so far the audio quality has been quite good. I don't know if it was worse in the past, but maybe just give it another try?
  - haffenloher 10y ago
    Audio quality has been good enough for me, but there's definitely room for improvement as they're still using Speex (if I'm not mistaken).
    - moyta 10y ago
      If they'd use Opus I'd really appreciate it, hell, if I could even get interop, I have hacked together an app to pass the ZRTP codeword to my deskphone when Freeswitch terminates it and reencodes it as SRTP/TLS for it, since no deskphone vendor supports ZRTP. Would make those that insist on ZRTP in my life a lot more convenient to have extended convos with.
- newman314 10y ago
  My major problem is when a contact stops using Signal for some reason (new phone etc.). My messages go into the ether without any indication that they are not being received.
  - MichaelGG 10y ago
    You should just get single-check meaning server received it but not the other user's device.
nickpsecurity 10y ago
That's the kind of stuff I was getting on TextSecure and RedPhone. Many people refused to use it after it happened enough. Just the tech types that are hardcore about privacy.

moyta 10y ago

I experienced this with TextSecure over a year ago, but since then it has been smooth sailing outside of minor outages (10hrs a month), since the outages are less than the regional outages we've been experiencing on AT&T and T-Mobile for SMS as of late (20 to 30hrs a month). Calling has also improved quite a bit, for Signal enabled contacts I've been using it exclusively for the past 9 months, I can be driving for an hour without call quality issues and maintain a stable call reliably.

JshWright 10y ago
Is the codec choice any better? The last time I tried to use it the audio quality was awful.
- lorenzhs 10y ago
  I use it for calling when abroad, and so far the audio quality has been quite good. I don't know if it was worse in the past, but maybe just give it another try?
- haffenloher 10y ago
  Audio quality has been good enough for me, but there's definitely room for improvement as they're still using Speex (if I'm not mistaken).
  - moyta 10y ago
    If they'd use Opus I'd really appreciate it, hell, if I could even get interop, I have hacked together an app to pass the ZRTP codeword to my deskphone when Freeswitch terminates it and reencodes it as SRTP/TLS for it, since no deskphone vendor supports ZRTP. Would make those that insist on ZRTP in my life a lot more convenient to have extended convos with.
newman314 10y ago
My major problem is when a contact stops using Signal for some reason (new phone etc.). My messages go into the ether without any indication that they are not being received.
- MichaelGG 10y ago
  You should just get single-check meaning server received it but not the other user's device.

nickpsecurity 10y ago

That's the kind of stuff I was getting on TextSecure and RedPhone. Many people refused to use it after it happened enough. Just the tech types that are hardcore about privacy.