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Tried using it yesterday, but says it's not available in my country (South Africa). I'm tired of silly restrictions like this, it immediately turned me off Data

by nevi-me 10y ago

Tried using it yesterday, but says it's not available in my country (South Africa). I'm tired of silly restrictions like this, it immediately turned me off Data Studio. I have a Tableau licence at work, which we feel are expensive and restrictive in terms of transferring licenses around when no longer needed. Seems like a no disappointment option these days is to just invest in the d3 ecosystem as much as possible.

brazzledazzle 10y ago
It could be as simple as them testing the waters or as complex as data storage and analysis having different requirements per country. It is annoying but may be the best they can do.
- nevi-me 10y ago
  I could access it from US VPN, so I don't know what the real trouble is. I can't think of anything in my country that would prevent Google from offering this service. From a billing perspective, Google already makes some money from me, and many companies, so I can't imagine that being a stumbling block.
  - Klathmon 10y ago
    But a company the size of Google can't just assume that there won't be anything wrong with operating in another country. They need to spend time and money on lawyers which specialize in that country's laws to look over everything and make sure. And that takes time and money, and you don't want to spend either of those when testing the waters on a new product.
- tajen 10y ago
  Google could have spread the Beta using an invitation-only scheme (Remember Gmail? That's how they controlled the load). Exclusive invitations are more inclusive than a US-centric approach. Customers get fed-up with US-centric approaches, which give us: - Different content on Netflix (Many movies in US, less than 1/4 in Poland), - Different treatment as civilians (See: NSA spying, Predators) - Movies coming 6 months later in Europe. I get it that US customers have more money, but if companies could use a specific criteria like "high-return customers" rather than a prejudice like "Only Silicon Valley customers will understand", that would be nice.
  - brazzledazzle 10y ago
    But if we assume the issue is a legal one and they need lawyers specializing in each country's laws to vet it for every country they release it in releasing a preview per-country makes sense.
njx 10y ago
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njx 10y ago
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by nevi-me 10y ago

brazzledazzle 10y ago

It could be as simple as them testing the waters or as complex as data storage and analysis having different requirements per country. It is annoying but may be the best they can do.

nevi-me 10y ago
I could access it from US VPN, so I don't know what the real trouble is. I can't think of anything in my country that would prevent Google from offering this service. From a billing perspective, Google already makes some money from me, and many companies, so I can't imagine that being a stumbling block.
- Klathmon 10y ago
  But a company the size of Google can't just assume that there won't be anything wrong with operating in another country. They need to spend time and money on lawyers which specialize in that country's laws to look over everything and make sure. And that takes time and money, and you don't want to spend either of those when testing the waters on a new product.
tajen 10y ago
Google could have spread the Beta using an invitation-only scheme (Remember Gmail? That's how they controlled the load). Exclusive invitations are more inclusive than a US-centric approach. Customers get fed-up with US-centric approaches, which give us: - Different content on Netflix (Many movies in US, less than 1/4 in Poland), - Different treatment as civilians (See: NSA spying, Predators) - Movies coming 6 months later in Europe. I get it that US customers have more money, but if companies could use a specific criteria like "high-return customers" rather than a prejudice like "Only Silicon Valley customers will understand", that would be nice.
- brazzledazzle 10y ago
  But if we assume the issue is a legal one and they need lawyers specializing in each country's laws to vet it for every country they release it in releasing a preview per-country makes sense.

njx 10y ago

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njx 10y ago

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