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>in Taiwan we ditched the fridge and gave up on cooking. Ended up saving ~50$ USD/mo A fridge uses something like 30 kWh per month. At 10 US cents per kWh, tha

>in Taiwan we ditched the fridge and gave up on cooking. Ended up saving ~50$ USD/mo A fridge uses something like 30 kWh per month. At 10 US cents per kWh, that's around 3 dollars per month. Even if the fridge is very old and eats twice or three times as much electricity, you can't really save 50 dollars per month from that. Electric stove is not much different, either. You must have miscalculated something. (According to [0], consumer price for electriticy in Taiwan is 9 cents per kWh. Cheaper than US, cheaper than in all EU countries except Bulgaria and Romania.) [0] http://www.eiu.com/industry/article/1670907751/taiwan-electricity-turning-on-the-lights/2013-09-02 http://www.eiu.com/industry/article/1670907751/taiwan-electr...

abakker 10y ago
I think he meant that inclusive of giving up cooking, and the fridge, they saved $50 a month.
- komali2 10y ago
  Yes, but I really wish I saved my spreadsheet I had, because somehow in Taiwan they were able to show us the meter for each room, and I remember looking at the kitchen the month after we gave up cooking and thinking "no fucking way." The guy with the KW/h calcs is right, it doesn't make sense when you do the math like that, but it was like 10 bucks a month in savings.
nommm-nommm 10y ago
9 cents/kWh is very cheap. I pay over 13 cents/kWh.
- ptaipale 10y ago
  Yes, and most Europeans also pay something like that. However, it still doesn't come even close to 10 $/month for a fridge.
  - legulere 10y ago
    Average price in the EU is 0.211€/kwH [1] which is 23 us cent/kWh. A modern fridge uses around 350kWh/a which is 80$/a which is 6.66$/month [1]: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Energy_price_statistics#Electricity_prices_for_household_consumers http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/... [2]: http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/refrigerators.html http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/refrigerators.html

abakker 10y ago

I think he meant that inclusive of giving up cooking, and the fridge, they saved $50 a month.

komali2 10y ago
Yes, but I really wish I saved my spreadsheet I had, because somehow in Taiwan they were able to show us the meter for each room, and I remember looking at the kitchen the month after we gave up cooking and thinking "no fucking way." The guy with the KW/h calcs is right, it doesn't make sense when you do the math like that, but it was like 10 bucks a month in savings.

nommm-nommm 10y ago

9 cents/kWh is very cheap. I pay over 13 cents/kWh.

ptaipale 10y ago
Yes, and most Europeans also pay something like that. However, it still doesn't come even close to 10 $/month for a fridge.
- legulere 10y ago
  Average price in the EU is 0.211€/kwH [1] which is 23 us cent/kWh. A modern fridge uses around 350kWh/a which is 80$/a which is 6.66$/month [1]: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Energy_price_statistics#Electricity_prices_for_household_consumers http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/... [2]: http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/refrigerators.html http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/refrigerators.html