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In order to get around this legal issue, could someone accept money only to cover the cost of the groceries? There would be some markup but, on paper, the prepa

by numtel 10y ago

In order to get around this legal issue, could someone accept money only to cover the cost of the groceries? There would be some markup but, on paper, the preparation/cooking would not be part of the transaction. Subverting zoning and health regulations does open a very real possibility for people to get sick though. I wonder if a product could be created that would scan individual food items for illness causing pathogens, allowing people to legally trade food without a licensed kitchen.

protomyth 10y ago
> Subverting zoning and health regulations does open a very real possibility for people to get sick though. That's a load of garbage. Zoning and health are good things for actual businesses, but doing something on an individual level should be between two people. The courts can handle it if something goes wrong. Scale matters, and there is a long tradition of bake sales and the like in the US. Do you expect babysitters to have a business license and be inspected? How about the neighborhood kid you get to cut your lawn? Not having a firewall between individuals / amateurs and actual business rules is just wrong.
- numtel 10y ago
  It would be great if we had policies that supported amateur businesses but the costs and red-tape are currently overwhelming. If I prepare a meal for my neighbor for a few dollars and then they subsequently have to spend a few days in hospital because they got E.Coli due to my accidental mishandling of some spinach, should I be liable for their medical costs? For how over-reaching New Zealand's government is about gardening, they do have an interesting plan with accident insurance, centralizing the risk for accidents of all kinds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_Compensation_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_Compensation_Corporat... With tort reform like that, could it more reasonable for people to operate small-scale, less-regulated businesses?
  - protomyth 10y ago
    > It would be great if we had policies that supported amateur businesses but the costs and red-tape are currently overwhelming. In rural America, we don't have those rules because we don't need them. > If I prepare a meal for my neighbor for a few dollars and then they subsequently have to spend a few days in hospital because they got E.Coli due to my accidental mishandling of some spinach, should I be liable for their medical costs? Yep, they are going to sue you or maybe not. If you buy something at a bake sale you should understand you are taking a chance. If you decide to sue, I guess you find out how your peers think about who is responsible. > With tort reform like that, could it more reasonable for people to operate small-scale, less-regulated businesses? If you open an actual business, I'm perfectly fine with you obeying the regulations and having them in the first place. I am not fine with arresting people for bake sales and making some food for you are your request. There is a simple, logical difference of scale between these activities and only an absolutist government or individuals cannot distinguish between them

by numtel 10y ago

protomyth 10y ago

> Subverting zoning and health regulations does open a very real possibility for people to get sick though. That's a load of garbage. Zoning and health are good things for actual businesses, but doing something on an individual level should be between two people. The courts can handle it if something goes wrong. Scale matters, and there is a long tradition of bake sales and the like in the US. Do you expect babysitters to have a business license and be inspected? How about the neighborhood kid you get to cut your lawn? Not having a firewall between individuals / amateurs and actual business rules is just wrong.

numtel 10y ago
It would be great if we had policies that supported amateur businesses but the costs and red-tape are currently overwhelming. If I prepare a meal for my neighbor for a few dollars and then they subsequently have to spend a few days in hospital because they got E.Coli due to my accidental mishandling of some spinach, should I be liable for their medical costs? For how over-reaching New Zealand's government is about gardening, they do have an interesting plan with accident insurance, centralizing the risk for accidents of all kinds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_Compensation_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_Compensation_Corporat... With tort reform like that, could it more reasonable for people to operate small-scale, less-regulated businesses?
- protomyth 10y ago
  > It would be great if we had policies that supported amateur businesses but the costs and red-tape are currently overwhelming. In rural America, we don't have those rules because we don't need them. > If I prepare a meal for my neighbor for a few dollars and then they subsequently have to spend a few days in hospital because they got E.Coli due to my accidental mishandling of some spinach, should I be liable for their medical costs? Yep, they are going to sue you or maybe not. If you buy something at a bake sale you should understand you are taking a chance. If you decide to sue, I guess you find out how your peers think about who is responsible. > With tort reform like that, could it more reasonable for people to operate small-scale, less-regulated businesses? If you open an actual business, I'm perfectly fine with you obeying the regulations and having them in the first place. I am not fine with arresting people for bake sales and making some food for you are your request. There is a simple, logical difference of scale between these activities and only an absolutist government or individuals cannot distinguish between them